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by StephenGoranson
Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Fernando Bermejo-Rubio
Replies: 120
Views: 4795

Re: Fernando Bermejo-Rubio

Hasmoneans professed belief in God. That's one reason I wonder why you regret they came to an end.
by StephenGoranson
Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Fernando Bermejo-Rubio
Replies: 120
Views: 4795

Re: Fernando Bermejo-Rubio

If understand you correctly, maryhelena, you present Hasmoneans as quite good, and ended in a tragic loss.
Do you wish to restore rule by King,
or civil war,
or temple service with animal sacrifice?
by StephenGoranson
Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel priority
Replies: 99
Views: 2065

Re: Gospel priority

Giuseppe, dating Marcion differently than your preference is not "intellectually dishonest."
by StephenGoranson
Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Fernando Bermejo-Rubio
Replies: 120
Views: 4795

Re: Fernando Bermejo-Rubio

Because you "don't have access to Roman records"
why make claims about what Rome did or did not deny?
by StephenGoranson
Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Agamemnon Tselikas’ Handwriting Analysis Report Did Morton Smith Forge "Secret Mark"?
Replies: 99
Views: 1647

Re: Agamemnon Tselikas’ Handwriting Analysis Report Did Morton Smith Forge "Secret Mark"?

NOTE: this is a CORRECTED post. My earlier version included at least one mistake. Sorry. My main point remains, that Morton Smith controlled information, and, as some people learned more, they relied on his account and interpretation less. ~~~~~~~ Thanks, Andrew; we agree that Morton Smith exaggerat...
by StephenGoranson
Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Fernando Bermejo-Rubio
Replies: 120
Views: 4795

Re: Fernando Bermejo-Rubio

maryhelena wrote, above, Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:01 am, in part: "That their charge stood, that it went without Roman denial, is testimony to an historical event prior to the time of Tiberius and Pilate - an historical event the gospel writers deemed relevant to their story." Though I don't see...
by StephenGoranson
Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Agamemnon Tselikas’ Handwriting Analysis Report Did Morton Smith Forge "Secret Mark"?
Replies: 99
Views: 1647

Re: Agamemnon Tselikas’ Handwriting Analysis Report Did Morton Smith Forge "Secret Mark"?

In other words, did Morton Smith show the whole text or only part of the text to different people for different purposes at different times?
by StephenGoranson
Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Agamemnon Tselikas’ Handwriting Analysis Report Did Morton Smith Forge "Secret Mark"?
Replies: 99
Views: 1647

Re: Agamemnon Tselikas’ Handwriting Analysis Report Did Morton Smith Forge "Secret Mark"?

I may need to recheck the two 1973 books, not at hand, to see if there is evidence that Smith showed* the whole text to all those scholars. But I can say that Smith, in his HTR "The Score" article, misrepresented at least one scholar, Edward C. Hobbs, by listing him among scholars who supp...
by StephenGoranson
Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Agamemnon Tselikas’ Handwriting Analysis Report Did Morton Smith Forge "Secret Mark"?
Replies: 99
Views: 1647

Re: Agamemnon Tselikas’ Handwriting Analysis Report Did Morton Smith Forge "Secret Mark"?

Well, I can say that some scholars, once they had additional information, changed their minds, from probable authenticity to probable non-authenticity.
by StephenGoranson
Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Agamemnon Tselikas’ Handwriting Analysis Report Did Morton Smith Forge "Secret Mark"?
Replies: 99
Views: 1647

Re: Agamemnon Tselikas’ Handwriting Analysis Report Did Morton Smith Forge "Secret Mark"?

I agree with Andrew (Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:58 am). And I would add that, though most of Smith's correspondence was destroyed, I suggest it is a safe bet that when Columbia Professor Smith asked others for paleographic date estimates he told them that he "found" the writing at Mar Saba, helpin...