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by spin
Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Back to the Nazareth Issue
Replies: 26
Views: 2474

Re: Back to the Nazareth Issue

Would someone only reading the Septuagint be able to distinguish between the different Hebrew sibilants? The only people who needed to distinguish Hebrew sibilants were the translators and they did it a hellovalot, rendering them quite consistently, so that readers didn't have to. An interesting &q...
by spin
Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Back to the Nazareth Issue
Replies: 26
Views: 2474

Re: Some incontrovertible facts about Nazareth

Philo's evidence would also be quite useful here as he talks of εκκλησιαι in terms that evoke the notion of the θιασος, but after the effort to refind the citation for Josephus's θιασοι, I don't have the energy. Philo - {**Yonge's title, A Treatise on the Principle that the Worse is Accustomed to b...
by spin
Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
Replies: 172
Views: 14703

Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus

Lol. It's fine to impress the rubes with fancy words like "infix" and "morpheme," but everyone can see that you're not even saying what "the morphological issue" is. If you care to cite an authoritative lexicon or grammar of koine Greek to the effect that this type of ...
by spin
Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
Replies: 172
Views: 14703

Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus

Now for the Lukan source: Mt 26 Mk 14 Lk 22 1 Cor 11 26 ...Jesus took a loaf of bread, and after blessing it he broke it, λαβων ο ιησους αρτον ευλογησας εκλασεν 22 ...he took a loaf of bread, and after blessing it he broke it, λαβων αρτον ευλογησας εκλασεν 19 Then he took a loaf of bread, and when ...
by spin
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
Replies: 172
Views: 14703

Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus

You seriously have to do better than this. Well that's condescending. I guess I'm not surprised. A person who is constantly saying "there is no alternative to my interpretation!" is, when challenged, not likely to be fair or polite, much less interested in alternative perspectives. At lea...
by spin
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Back to the Nazareth Issue
Replies: 26
Views: 2474

Re: Some incontrovertible facts about Nazareth

I frown at everyone who even mentions Q, let alone bases anything on it as it simply doesn't exist, but for the rest I agree completely You keep frowning. But do try to understand the chronological significance that was indicated. The shared material between Mt & Lk indicates a commonality betw...
by spin
Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
Replies: 172
Views: 14703

Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus

Paul's ritual meal has been turned into a Last Supper with the close citation from Luke's gospel. The dependence of that on Mark is evident, so the origin of 1 Cor 11:23b-25 is based on that chain, Mark > Luke > 1 Cor. One cannot justify any other trajectory based on a linguistic analysis of 1 Cor ...
by spin
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Back to the Nazareth Issue
Replies: 26
Views: 2474

Some incontrovertible facts about Nazareth

1. Paul doesn't evince any knowledge of Nazareth. Q doesn't evince any knowledge of Nazareth. And the synoptics share no common reference to Nazareth. These simple pointers show that Nazareth was not in the earliest Jesus traditions . (Whereas Capernaum is found in Q and in the Marcan descendents' ...
by spin
Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
Replies: 172
Views: 14703

Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus

The subject we were dealing with was the relationship between 1 Cor 11:23b-25 and the last supper accounts in the synoptic gospels!
by spin
Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Paul never quotes Jesus
Replies: 172
Views: 14703

Re: Why Paul never quotes Jesus

schillingklaus wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:55 pm No, there is no dependence ofg the Lukan cena on Mark's but on prior pre-canonical sources. Only Markan priorists hallucinate a dependence of the Lukan cena on the Markan one.
We need evidence, not assertions.