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Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:32 am

They could also read this as the higher good God declaring Jesus. It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite.

WRONG! It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Basilidian. It is clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite.

Please like the difference.

Mark makes it clear the identity of the god who sent the spirit who defended Jesus against the temptations in the wilderness who otherwise would have won his human nature: And a voice came from heaven: “ You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased .” At once the Spirit sent him out into...

Psalm 2:7 is spoken by YHWH : 7 I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you. Isaiah 42:1 is spoken by YHWH : 1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen, in whom my soul delights; I have put my Spirit upon him; he will bring forth justice to the natio...

Mark makes it clear the identity of the god who sent the spirit who defended Jesus against the temptations in the wilderness who otherwise would have won his human nature: And a voice came from heaven: “ You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased .” At once the Spirit sent him out into...

If the Temptation Story didn't target Marcion and was a mere general innocent concept, then how do you explain this curious "signature" by Mark ? But the Mark's solution betrayes the presence of Marcionites who would have accused easily: humanity == infection of sin. Mark's answer: humani...

If the Temptation Story didn't target Marcion and was a mere general innocent concept, then how do you explain this curious "signature" by Mark ? But the Mark's solution betrayes the presence of Marcionites who would have accused easily: humanity == infection of sin. Mark's answer: humanit...

And somehow only Marcionites ever considered the idea that humans are sinful, so it relates to Marcionism... that is indeed the implication, since it is a fact that "only Marcionites ever considered the idea that human births are sinful , so the birth via holy spirit relates to Marcionism"...

(...continuing...) Mark emphasizes the difference between the Jesus before the baptism, a sinful Jesus in need of purification via baptism ...and the Jesus after the baptism: a Jesus defended successfully by the holy spirit against the temptations in the wilderness. Hence it is self-evident that Mar...

If Hebrews doesn't persuade you, what about Romans 8:3 ? For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering Marcion interpreted this verse to mean docetism : Jesus only appeared to be in the s...

Hebrews is working out a concept of a perfect sacrifice, in order to provide an explanation of how Jesus replaced once and for all the use of sacrifices. are you aware of Turmel's case for the Hebrews's passage being anti-marcionite? We read in II, 16-17 the following observation: “Surely it is not...