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- Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:03 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: The Epistle to Diognetus and the Marcionite Nexus: Twin Visions of God's Kindness
- Replies: 13
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Re: The Epistle to Diognetus and the Marcionite Nexus: Twin Visions of God's Kindness
Here we find a doctrine that sounds very similar to what puzzled the church fathers so much about the Marcionites, i.e., that man did not have any knowledge of God before He came. I will at once declare this to be the most interesting feature of the Epistle .. This is not to say that I am sure that...
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:17 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The "Christianos Graffito" discovered in Pompeii (1862)
- Replies: 26
- Views: 988
Re: The "Christianos Graffito" discovered in Pompeii (1862)
What can be seen by the definitions in the LSJ and in this definition of the comment on Homer is that χρίω ("smear") is a wide-ranging verb that implies less than a more-specific sense of anointing: you can "rub" or "smear" clothing or arrows with poison, you can smear...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:30 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: κολοβοδάκτυλος
- Replies: 33
- Views: 1083
Re: κολοβοδάκτυλος
I was simply pointing out that if Stephan's understanding of κολοβοδακτυλος is accepted, other interpretations of the passage are possible, perhaps more plausible than the one he would like it to bear. Still think it's a brilliant spot
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:26 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: κολοβοδάκτυλος
- Replies: 33
- Views: 1083
Re: κολοβοδάκτυλος
I can't believe that no one has suggested this before. This is a brilliant spot, and it's disappointing that hardly anyone (so far) has bothered to read this post. However, even if correct, this reading is not necessarily evidence of knowledge of two versions of the gospel of Mark, which I assume t...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:27 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: A "Messianic" Use of Chrestos in Against Celsus
- Replies: 30
- Views: 832
Re: A "Messianic" Use of Chrestos in Against Celsus
Another possible explanation for why Jesus was called "Chrestos": Ἐπεὶ δὲ ὁ ἐπαγγελλόμενος εἰδέναι τὰ τοῦ λόγου πάντα Κέλσος ὀνειδίζει τῷ σωτῆρι ἐπὶ τῷ πάθει ὡς μὴ βοηθηθέντι ὑπὸ τοῦ πατρὸς ἢ μὴ δυνηθέντι ἑαυτῷ βοηθῆσαι, παραθετέον ὅτι τὸ πάθος αὐτοῦ ἐπροφητεύετο μετὰ τῆς αἰτίας, ὅτι χρήσ...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:33 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: The Epistle to Diognetus and the Marcionite Nexus: Twin Visions of God's Kindness
- Replies: 13
- Views: 688
Re: The Epistle to Diognetus and the Marcionite Nexus: Twin Visions of God's Kindness
Many thanks to Peter : I offer a brief note on the Epistle to Diognetus, and within twelve hours thete's a full, reasoned and immensely suggestive essay in response. Total respect ! There is a further link to the 'Marcionite nexus' which is obscured by the text of 7.4 as conventionally printed and t...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:18 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
- Replies: 467
- Views: 18634
Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
[quote Based on the context, this most likely abbreviates the word Χριστος. [/quote] This argument, inference from context, can be applied to that oddity, the Epistle to Diognetus. A mini-Apology to a pagan, while it mentions Christians (however spelt*), the saviour/revelator is not named. He is God...
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:41 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: The Chreestology of Ephesians
- Replies: 22
- Views: 930
Re: The Chreestology of Ephesians
Peter, many thanks for taking up my suggestion on a related thread that the 'inclusive' method of interpreting the Χριστος/Χρηστος data, pioneered by John Moles, was worth considering; and especially for doing the hard yards to provide generous excerpts from his essay. There's another example (minor...
- Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:40 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: we shall be called with-Chrēstoi and Chrēstians in X
- Replies: 11
- Views: 590
Re: we shall be called with-Chrēstoi and Chrēstians in X
FWIW, Lampe's Patristic Greek Lexicon (1961 ed.) has an entry on συνχρηστος/συγχρηστος, referencing this letter as its only instance. The non-preferred suggestions clearly derive from the discussion in the H.I. Bell volume quoted by LC above. So : "2. ? for συγχρηστιανοι fellow Christian, ib.17...
- Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:48 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
- Replies: 467
- Views: 18634
Re: The X-Files: Chrestos / Christos / Χρειστος
Alternative translation. Those of Chrestos = ruling class in ancient Athens. https://books.google.com/books?id=MOfOAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA9&dq=athens+%CF%87%CF%81%CE%B7%CF%83%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%AF&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDxuqniPWDAxU...