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- Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xians?
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Re: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xi
Nonsense. This kind of scholarship is execrable. The identification of Paul as the Paraclete is so unique to Pauline groups (cf. Origen Comm Luc). How did it get into this text? This is a Marcionite community. Mani comes to town because the church believes that Jesus came to herald the Paraclete but...
- Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:38 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xians?
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Re: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xi
It is worth noting that the Syriac adjective 'Nazarene/Nazorene' (= nzry, nzwry) might have something to do with continence (nzuwryā) http://dukhrana.com/lexicon//lookup.php?p=422&l=0 It might be behind the Greek term 'encratite.'
- Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:26 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xians?
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Re: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xi
But to answer your question there is no text or source that juxtaposes the Marcionites as 'Christians' in the East with the Nazarenes. You're confounding two separate lines of thought or evidence that never intersect in our sources. Tertullian mentions Lam 4:7 "Her Nazirites were whiter than sn...
- Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:24 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xians?
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Re: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xi
spin, While it is not directly related to your question I would look at the Acts of Archelaus to get a 'feel' for the organized Christianity in the region. The story told there (reworked no doubt several times) is that Mani came to Osroene to be recognized by a certain 'Marcellus' as the awaited Par...
- Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:17 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xians?
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Re: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xi
The evidence for Christians being called 'Nazarenes' in the region is not from Bauer but other sources.
- Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:13 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xians?
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Re: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xi
In addition to this, another point is of great importance -- the fact that Palût and those in agreement with him first appear after Christianity of another type already is in existence. They had to identify themselves, and to allow themselves to be identified, by the name [[22]] of their leader. The...
- Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:11 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xians?
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- Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:11 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xians?
- Replies: 42
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Re: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xi
Orthodox were called Palutians (which I suspect derives from 'refugees'). The Nazarene part is from elsewhere I think.
- Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:10 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Christians = Marcionites & Nazarenes = proto-orthodox Xians?
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- Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:27 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Early evidence for the letters of Paul?
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Re: Early evidence for the letters of Paul?
Clement's use of the term 'apostolic' is important in Strom 2.20 Οπως δ ημεις του διαβολου τας ενεργειας και τα πνευματα τα ακαθαρτα εις την του αμαρτωλου ψυχην επισπειρειν φαμεν ου μοι δει πλειονων λογων, παραθεμενω μαρτυν τον αποστολικον Βαρναβαν, ο δε των εβδομηκοντα ην και συνεργος του Παυλου, κ...