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by Giuseppe
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ritual aesthetic surgery
Replies: 6
Views: 120

Re: Ritual aesthetic surgery

My difficulty in accepting it (even if I may think of Jesus being human, but atemporal, for other reasons in Paul), is that if you think that "born by woman" is genuine, then accordingly you have to conclude that probably Marcion removed the birth from Luke (i.e. Luke precedes *Ev). But th...
by Giuseppe
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ritual aesthetic surgery
Replies: 6
Views: 120

Re: Ritual aesthetic surgery

JarekS wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:23 am I believe this is the original text.
if I understand well, you believe that 'born from woman, born under the Law' (Gal 4:4) is the original text.
by Giuseppe
Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ritual aesthetic surgery
Replies: 6
Views: 120

Re: Ritual aesthetic surgery

JarekS wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:06 pm Paul's Jesus was a human
Do you think that 'born from woman, born under the Law' (Gal 4:4) is not an anti-marcionite interpolation?
by Giuseppe
Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 30
Views: 544

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

So you now accept my argument that Jesus' explicit statement that the deaf hear in Matt 11.4-5 and Luke 7.22 works only if there were an explicit story of Jesus curing a deaf person earlier, which Matthew has at Matt 9.32-34, while Luke has no such story? a thing is the comparison between actions a...
by Giuseppe
Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: a neglected Marcionite gospel reference
Replies: 21
Views: 278

Re: a neglected Marcionite gospel reference

Not so late, however. Since in proto-John the Paraclete is Marcion.
by Giuseppe
Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 30
Views: 544

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

The argument is not that verse 4:15 is designed to explain completely the verse 4:14. The argument is that the explicit epitet of 'physician' requires an equally explicit exorcism story before the episode of Nazareth. It can't require an implicit hearsay about previous exorcisms, because even the na...
by Giuseppe
Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The parable of wineskins is afterall evidence that *Ev precedes Luke
Replies: 0
Views: 37

The parable of wineskins is afterall evidence that *Ev precedes Luke

And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the new wine will burst the wineskins and be spilled, and the wineskins will be ruined. But new wine must be put into new wineskins, and both are preserved. And no one, having drunk old wine, immediately desires new; for he says, 'The old is bett...
by Giuseppe
Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 30
Views: 544

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

Also, Jesus' claim that the people will doubtless say 'Physician, heal thyself" is a presupposition that there is something wrong with Jesus, which in all likelihood is that he is possessed by a spirit, which he is. Very easy confutation: verse 4:14-16 explains enough well the part ' heal hims...
by Giuseppe
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: From Bar-Rabbas to Bar-Abbas: how the follower of a rabbi was transformed in the Marcionite Jesus
Replies: 2
Views: 75

Re: From Bar-Rabbas to Bar-Abbas: how the follower of a rabbi was transformed in the Marcionite Jesus

It is curious that the rival (Jesus) " disciple of the rabbi Jesus b. Perahiah" ("bar Rabbas", "bar Jesus") was reduced by Acts to be "an attendant of the proconsul, Sergius Paulus ". A misunderstanding of the fact that the true Jesus hallucinated by Paul live...
by Giuseppe
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: From Bar-Rabbas to Bar-Abbas: how the follower of a rabbi was transformed in the Marcionite Jesus
Replies: 2
Views: 75

Re: From Bar-Rabbas to Bar-Abbas: how the follower of a rabbi was transformed in the Marcionite Jesus

Another trace of the same embarrassment for the confusion between a remote Jesus of the distant past and a recent (Gospel) Jesus: "Bar Jesus" appears in Acts 13:6–7: “They traveled through the whole island until they came to Paphos. There they met a Jewish sorcerer and false prophet named ...