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Did the ancient prophet Ezekiel tell the truth about Russ

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 7:25 am
by Tom Skylark
Was the prophet Ezekiel telling the truth about Russia in a prophecy given some 2,600 years ago?

(1)http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20130627/181914590.html
(2)http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/08 ... s-a08.html
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(4)http://rt.com/politics/common-help-oper ... istan-545/
(5)http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20100820/160276128.html
(6)http://en.ria.ru/world/20130626/181896268.html
(7)http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/22/world ... .html?_r=2&
(8)http://english.pravda.ru/world/ussr/12- ... defense-0/
(9)http://en.ria.ru/world/20130910/183337303.html
(10)http://www.libyaherald.com/2013/09/25/r ... z2t4dFusYk
(11)http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Securi ... 357765041/
(12)http://www.voanews.com/content/rights-g ... 51766.html
(13) http://nazret.com/blog/index.php/2013/0 ... rom-russia
(14)http://rbth.com/international/2013/05/2 ... 26141.html
(15)http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/8854-ru ... ear-plant/
(16)http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/09/24 ... ssia-iran/
(17)http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Turkey ... dan-306767
(18)http://www.libyaherald.com/2012/05/20/l ... z2h8pY8FV9
(19)http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey ... sCatID=348

Russia=the leader Gog & Ezekiel 38:2 lands. Meshech=Moscow area. Rosh=Russia. Tubal=Tobal river region in Siberia. Magog=Ukraine & former Soviet Central Asian Republics. Turkey=Togarmah in Ezekiel 38:6 If the Bible is to be taken literal it appears Putin will soon absorb all of the Ukraine and Turkey will betray us by leaving N.A.T.O. in the near future.

Re: Did the ancient prophet Ezekiel tell the truth about Rus

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 1:24 pm
by Thor
If the Bible is to be taken literal......

Meshech = Meshech
Moscow = Moscow

Re: Did the ancient prophet Ezekiel tell the truth about Rus

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 4:31 pm
by Tom Skylark
Here is an opinion from another source about the nations in the Gog/Magog prophecy with some nations/areas are different in the lineup.

http://hisemissary.com/ezekiel/ezek38p1.html

Re: Did the ancient prophet Ezekiel tell the truth about Rus

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 4:31 pm
by Diogenes the Cynic
All those identifications are completely made up.

Re: Did the ancient prophet Ezekiel tell the truth about Rus

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 4:56 pm
by Tom Skylark
I guess its all make believe about Russia arming the Libyans, Turkey's military alliance with ancient Ethiopia (Sudan), Iranian ships docking in the port of Sudan, Russia trying to absorb the Ukraine into Putin's new Russian empire, Belarus Armenia and the former Soviet Muslim Central Asian Republics now being in CSTO.

Putin must be a saint with no evil intentions as he is building 100 new Russian army bases.

Re: Did the ancient prophet Ezekiel tell the truth about Rus

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 5:29 pm
by Diogenes the Cynic
It's make-believe that any of that stuff is predicted in the Bible. It's make believe that "Gog and Magog" have anything to do with modern Russia. Josephus said they referred to Scythians.

Revelation was about Rome at the end of the 2st Century. Everything in it was about Rome, The Beast was the Emperor, the Whore was Rome, 666 was a numerical anagram for Nero. It has nothing to do with any distant future, not could it because the author, obviously, could not have predicted the future. He thought the end was already imminent. Revelation was a failed prophecy.

Re: Did the ancient prophet Ezekiel tell the truth about Rus

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 7:27 pm
by Tom Skylark
Diogenes the Cynic wrote:It's make-believe that any of that stuff is predicted in the Bible. It's make believe that "Gog and Magog" have anything to do with modern Russia. Josephus said they referred to Scythians.

Revelation was about Rome at the end of the 2st Century. Everything in it was about Rome, The Beast was the Emperor, the Whore was Rome, 666 was a numerical anagram for Nero. It has nothing to do with any distant future, not could it because the author, obviously, could not have predicted the future. He thought the end was already imminent. Revelation was a failed prophecy.
Yes. Your the historian. Tell me where the Romans recorded a 200 million man army (Revelation 9:14-16) and where the Romans recorded the rising power of China as one of the Kings of the East. (Revelation 16:12) Tell me where the Roman empire recorded a nuclear war. (Revelation 8:7) There wasn't even 200 million people on earth when this prophecy was given but chairman Mao said in the 1960's he could produce a 200 million man army.

http://usainprophecy.tripod.com/theusai ... y/id4.html

Re: Did the ancient prophet Ezekiel tell the truth about Rus

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 7:52 pm
by Tom Skylark
Tom Skylark wrote:
Diogenes the Cynic wrote:It's make-believe that any of that stuff is predicted in the Bible. It's make believe that "Gog and Magog" have anything to do with modern Russia. Josephus said they referred to Scythians.

Revelation was about Rome at the end of the 2st Century. Everything in it was about Rome, The Beast was the Emperor, the Whore was Rome, 666 was a numerical anagram for Nero. It has nothing to do with any distant future, not could it because the author, obviously, could not have predicted the future. He thought the end was already imminent. Revelation was a failed prophecy.
Scythians were in part of Russia and Ezekiel 38:8 says in the last days Russia would become powerful allied with Muslim nations and Russia would attack Israel. I guess you never read newspapers where Russia is shown arming all of Israel's enemies. You said you don't believe in Bible prophecy and the Bible states people would be under a grand delusion in the end times.

Yes. Your the historian. Tell me where the Romans recorded a 200 million man army (Revelation 9:14-16) and where the Romans recorded the rising power of China as one of the Kings of the East. (Revelation 16:12) Tell me where the Roman empire recorded a nuclear war. (Revelation 8:7) There wasn't even 200 million people on earth when this prophecy was given but chairman Mao said in the 1960's he could produce a 200 million man army.

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-Nukes.htm

If the book of Revelation is a failed prophecy why are our oceans dying? Our oceans now have 10% dead zones where there is no fish life whatsoever and what about all the radiation going into the Pacific Ocean now from Fukushima, Japan? The oceans will be dead one day just like the prophet John predicted in 95 A.D. when he wrote the book of Revelation. (Revelation 16:3) As the oceans are dying the jelly fishes increases.

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/28-sig ... -fukushima

http://qz.com/133251/jellyfish-are-taki ... stop-them/

Re: Did the ancient prophet Ezekiel tell the truth about Rus

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:27 am
by Tom Skylark
Diogenes the Cynic wrote:It's make-believe that any of that stuff is predicted in the Bible. It's make believe that "Gog and Magog" have anything to do with modern Russia. Josephus said they referred to Scythians.

Revelation was about Rome at the end of the 2st Century. Everything in it was about Rome, The Beast was the Emperor, the Whore was Rome, 666 was a numerical anagram for Nero. It has nothing to do with any distant future, not could it because the author, obviously, could not have predicted the future. He thought the end was already imminent. Revelation was a failed prophecy.
You likely believe in Replacement Theology that after the Roman empire scattered the Jews in 70 A.D. destroying their second temple that all Jewish prophecies written before that date have no meaning. Ezekiel 36:24 blows that theory out of the water. The Jews are leaving nations around the world. The Jews are returning back to Israel.

Re: Did the ancient prophet Ezekiel tell the truth about Rus

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 2:55 pm
by Mental flatliner
Tom Skylark wrote:Was the prophet Ezekiel telling the truth about Russia in a prophecy given some 2,600 years ago?
No.

He was telling the truth about the peoples who lived there 2600 years ago (I think at that time they were Scythians).