ok well ill check out DMR, tybbyrd009 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:10 amFour is an arbitrary number indeed, but it is his whole story behind it that is so very worthy of reading, concise and to the point
I see the gospel of Thomas not in the context of any religion, certainly not Christianity. John just tries to make its author look bad, giving away which text was earlier
the gospel of Thomas im skeptible of tbh, prolly the usual misgivings
but may i suggest that John was hiding wisdom from the wise, less than trying to trash Thomas?
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A bit of both, I'd say - John was also trying to convey wisdom, exactly as Thomas did, and it weas the exact same wisdom. Long story there that I ahven't unravelled yet
Check out my translation of Thomas, you will be surprised at the dozens of words that are different (yet literally translated) from all other "translations". Guillaumont, Layton, Lambdin: all Christian authors who interpreted the text through their NT lens
https://www.academia.edu/42110001/Inter ... oncordance
Some examples below; it's a literal translation, word-by-word. I'm working on an Interpretation and Commentary which will be more legible yet still fully traceable to its Coptic source
Logion 74: said he : oh slaveowner there-be many of the going-round within the(F) separation there-is-not anyone However in the(F) sickness
Logion 96: said IS : the(F) reign-of(F) king of the father she liken to a woman did she take a little of first-milk did she hide him in a dough did she make-be he of some(PL) great loaf he-who there-be ear within he let! he hear
Logion 97: said IS : the(F) reign-of(F) king of the father she liken to a woman she bear-under a jar he fill of flour she walk on a path she been-distantiated did the ear of the jar break did the flour pour behind she on the(F) path did…? she know not is did…? not she understand to-toil have make-be she split inward to her house did she place the jar downward did she fall as-regards he he empty
Logion 96: said IS : the(F) reign-of(F) king of the father she liken to a woman did she take a little of first-milk did she hide him in a dough did she make-be he of some(PL) great loaf he-who there-be ear within he let! he hear
Logion 97: said IS : the(F) reign-of(F) king of the father she liken to a woman she bear-under a jar he fill of flour she walk on a path she been-distantiated did the ear of the jar break did the flour pour behind she on the(F) path did…? she know not is did…? not she understand to-toil have make-be she split inward to her house did she place the jar downward did she fall as-regards he he empty