Critical Study on Chronology of the Ancient World

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Critical Study on Chronology of the Ancient World

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Good day.

It is sad to see that alternative history is revolving around Fomenko and his ideas of Tartaria and maths. It wasn't always like that.

Fomenko's early publications grew from studies of Morozov and Postnikov, not bothering with maths, Russia, or similarity of words. But these were never translated and so they are totally unknown in the West.

The following is a translation of Chapter 1 from the 1970s study by Postnikov, repackaging Morozov's ideas from 1907-1932 but in more dymanic way.

https://mega.nz/file/YCxATYJI#VEqo9QVFc ... crlotoehuI
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crystallize wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 2:32 am Good day.

It is sad to see that alternative history is revolving around Fomenko and his ideas of Tartaria and maths. It wasn't always like that.

Fomenko's early publications grew from studies of Morozov and Postnikov, not bothering with maths, Russia, or similarity of words. But these were never translated and so they are totally unknown in the West.

The following is a translation of Chapter 1 from the 1970s study by Postnikov, repackaging Morozov's ideas from 1907-1932 but in more dymanic way.

https://mega.nz/file/YCxATYJI#VEqo9QVFc ... crlotoehuI
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Re: Fomenko, a Neo-Soviet Propagandist

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According to wiki - and I wouldnt waste another minute of my time reading this nutbar - A. Fomenko insists "the lands west of the 13 colonies that now constitute the American West and Middle West were a far eastern part of 'Siberian-American Empire' prior to its disintegration in 1775, and many other theories, that contradict the conventional historiography to say the least."

He's part of the Revisionist cabal which would justify invading Alaska (as The Beast has invaded Ukraine) on grounds that it was Russian, once - honestly, you couldn't make this sh*t up:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... honor.html
https://carlbeckpapers.pitt.edu/ojs/ind ... ad/160/156

The mathematician Anatolii Timofeevich Fomenko and the self-styled “New Chronology” (Novaia khronologiia) with which he is associated have proposed a radical revision not just of Russian but of world history, a revision whose dimensions can be illustrated by two of its postulates: in world history everything that is supposedly known about what happened before 1000 CE is a later invention; in Russian history the Mongol Empire had nothing to do with Mongols from Mongolia but was a Russian empire whose history was erased in the seventeenth century and later in Russia by the pro-Western Romanov dynasty and in Western Europe by the states created by revolts against it. Despite the prima facie ludicrousness of this schema, the New Chronology is a thriving enterprise. Fomenko and his coauthors have published dozens of books in Russian and English; the total number of pages which have appeared under Fomenko’s name as author or coauthor is probably over ten thousand. These totals do not include publications by other New Chronology advocates. Books by Fomenko and his colleague Gleb Vladimirovich Nosovskii appear in huge press runs.1 One commentator, after noting that the New Chronology is included in some school curricula and the programs of several political parties, estimated that 30 percent of Russians are sympathetic to the New Chronology.2 The New Chronology maintains a website, publishes a biannual journal, and broadcasts several television programs.3 Fomenko is a formidable element of the contemporary Russian intellectual scene.4

The New Chronology has rightly elicited vehement opposition from Russian historians, as well as scholars from other disciplines, because Fomenko’s theories are worthless fantasies, utterly devoid of serious value for the study of history. But his popularity in Russia has required historians there to study the New Chronology for two reasons, first, to refute its outrageous distortions of history, and second, to explain why such nonsense has achieved such a huge audience in Russia. The New Chronology has received relatively little scholarly attention outside Russia.5 The amount of time, energy, and publications devoted in Russia to refuting Fomenko in and of itself justifies Western interest in the polemics about the New Chronology as a feature of post-Soviet Russian historiography and culture. Unfortunately to appreciate why Russian historians become so livid at the mention of Fomenko’s name and why the popularity of the New Chronology elicits such shock in Russian academic circles it is necessary to present unadorned an extensive précis of this version of Russian history.6 Then we can identify the connections between the New Chronology and the elements of Russian historiography and Russian intellectual history it has cannibalized in the composition of its fractured fairy tale.

Rather obviously, this rubbish 'Theory' has long been subsidized and deliberately encouraged by arch-Revisionist decepticon and murderous sociopath Vladimir Putin. A veritable Hitler/Stalin/Mao of our day... Слава Україні!

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So, is anyone reading it?
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