Paul the Uncertain wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:31 pm Paul seems to think of the Resurrection, though, as a recent event based on he and his contemporaries having met the risen Christ in visions and some have received teaching commissions, Paul's interpretation of the Resurrection as the beginning of a general resurrection (Jesus being its "first fruits"), Paul expecting to avoid death himself now that the general resurrections has begun, and his apparent walking back his earlier preaching that his converts would also avoid death.
I do think that the revelations of the Hidden Christ/Messiah are recent since Paul says he had these revelations himself.
However, he says that this secret has been hidden since ancient times. This is confirmed by the Deutero-Pauline letters:
Romans 16
25 Now to him who is able to establish you in accordance with my gospel, the message I proclaim about Jesus Christ, in keeping with the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past,
26 but now revealed and made known through the prophetic writings by the command of the eternal God, so that all the Gentiles might come to the obedience that comes fromfaith—
Ephesians 3
3 that is, the mystery made known to me by revelation, as I have already written briefly.
4 In reading this, then, you will be able to understand my insight into the mystery of Christ,
5 which was not made known to people in other generations as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to God’s holy apostles and prophets.
6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.
8 Although I am less than the least of all the Lord’s people, this grace was given me: to preach to the Gentiles the boundless riches of Christ,
9 and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things.
Colossians 1
26 the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is now disclosed to the Lord’s people.
27 To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
On the other hand, he considers the return of the Messiah as an imminent event. This is something like what Isaiah presents in his book. The crushed servant is a past event. Then this servant is exalted. Then the day of judgment approaches.
And Isaiah sometimes links the day of judgment with the servant. Isaiah's influence on Paul is more deep than we can imagine.
I think the third day is a detail that he/they must have found in the scriptures as he says himself.Paul the Uncertain wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:31 pm In your current thinking, does Paul view the Resurrection as a recent event, where does the "third day" after Jesus's death fit in,
His letters and the Deuutero-pauline letters say both. I do not believe in magical visions. So I would say that he only got this from the scriptures and added the visions to the story to give himself credibility as an apostle, like his predecessors did.Paul the Uncertain wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:31 pm and is Paul inferring the Resurrection (and its timing) from scripture, or just from the visionary meetings, or both?
Anyway, yours is in an interesting alternative viewpoint.