Don't stop there. Further proof of your sophistry is that no live witnesses are here today to contradict you. Ditto's for CNN interviews, photos, radio programing, and newspapers. So, yeah, there is no way to prove anything to your satisfaction.Giuseppe wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:21 amI think that the mention of Pilate is derived from the memory of Dositheus, i.e. probably the Samaritan false prophet killed by Pilate.
For two/three reasons:
- The story of Dositheus dying in a cave is a polemical parody of the legend of Dositheus being risen after the crucifixion and the burial in a cave. Occam's razor requires that there could be, under the same Roman Governor (=Pilate), only one burial followed by a (presumed) resurrection, not two burials followed by two (presumed) resurrections.
- If Josephus had mentioned really a Galilean also crucified by Pilate, then there would be no reason, by a Christian sect, of identifying Dositheus with the "Prophet like Moses" in the place of that (presumed) Galilean victim of Pilate, even more so since other Christians believed that Jesus was "a Prophet like Moses".
- The Catholic insistence that Jesus died under Pilate is an obvious polemic against other Christians who claimed that Dositheus died under Pilate.
At any case, even if Josephus mentioned really a Galilean crucified by Pilate, that Galilean can't be defined "THE historical Jesus", not more than Jesus ben Sapphias could be defined such, not more than Jesus ben Ananias could be defined such, not more than the "Egyptian" could be defined such, not more than Athronges, or Judas the Galilean, or Theudas, or Menahem, could be defined such, and the list may continue.
Basically, prof Christophe Batsch and Aron Ra are saying the same thing.
Why, there isn't any proof that Josephus even lived, that is, if you have to go that far to deny common sense that a man named Jesus was crucified at the time of Pilate.
