Nomina non sacra

[lclapshaw]

Those blobs at the ends of the staurogram are interesting.

It's assumed that the staurogram represents tau rho but what if that is not the case? Something to study here me thinks.

I am well aware of the oceans of typos that I make, but these are s-Ti-Rho-grams, not staurograms

Right on, and I am looking at your paper, but concerning staurograms, something just doesn't make sense to me. Take Ϲ⳨ΟC for instance, isn't the omicron redundant here? If ⳨ stands for tau + rho then the omicron (Ο) isn't needed is it? What you end up with is STAUROOC not STAUROC. Ϲ⳨C would be much more elegant don't you think? Or better yet ⳧ with the sigmas on each side being the "blobs" of the crossbar.

Any thoughts on this?

Fun contribution btw mbuckley3.

Great point Lane, never thought about that. Yes, for both ligatures it would be superfluous

Question now is, what would it do in Coptic? Dunno ...

One other thing: perhaps you have heard of the SATOR square, yet another mystery - and one with greatly similar letters.
All I could make of Ϲ⳨ΟC is Stirros, 'stiff'. Still in line with my initial idea of Satyros, satyr. Think of the god Min and Pan, the abundance of statues of them, and an erect penis really is a very good thing to have under almost all circumstances, especially in Egypt

"In my manner" as it says in Thomas, ⲧⲁϩⲉ, is the exact same word for 'drunk'. I won't go there, but you know the effect...

I still think Satyros was a better gamble, but:

Min (Egyptian mnw[1]) is an ancient Egyptian god whose cult originated in the predynastic period (4th millennium BCE).[2] He was represented in many different forms, but was most often represented in male human form, shown with an erect penis which he holds in his right hand and an upheld left arm holding a flail.

Then I think of logion 62:

62. said IS : I say [dop] my(PL) Mystery to they-who be-worthy of my(PL) Mystery he-who your(F.SG) right-hand will make-be he there-is-not to-cause your(F.SG) left-hand understand : [dop] she/r make-be them

Your right hand makes them - Min, what is he holding in his right hand?
Trouble with the damn deities in Egypt is that there are so many of them, with such great overlap, that any of them will function the way a horoscope does: always a tempting bit of truth in it

Ah well. Fine point Lane, I'll ponder it - yet you can ascertain in the Commentary that I've gone over the 163k words of the LSJ already :/

I was under the impression that stiros is a Latin word for "ironed" or "stretched".

But we still have the problem of, are the koine letters T and P pronounced tau and rho? How do we know this?

[mlinssen]

Those blobs at the ends of the staurogram are interesting.

It's assumed that the staurogram represents tau rho but what if that is not the case? Something to study here me thinks.

I am well aware of the oceans of typos that I make, but these are s-Ti-Rho-grams, not staurograms

Right on, and I am looking at your paper, but concerning staurograms, something just doesn't make sense to me. Take Ϲ⳨ΟC for instance, isn't the omicron redundant here? If ⳨ stands for tau + rho then the omicron (Ο) isn't needed is it? What you end up with is STAUROOC not STAUROC. Ϲ⳨C would be much more elegant don't you think? Or better yet ⳧ with the sigmas on each side being the "blobs" of the crossbar.

Any thoughts on this?

Fun contribution btw mbuckley3.

Great point Lane, never thought about that. Yes, for both ligatures it would be superfluous

Question now is, what would it do in Coptic? Dunno ...

One other thing: perhaps you have heard of the SATOR square, yet another mystery - and one with greatly similar letters.
All I could make of Ϲ⳨ΟC is Stirros, 'stiff'. Still in line with my initial idea of Satyros, satyr. Think of the god Min and Pan, the abundance of statues of them, and an erect penis really is a very good thing to have under almost all circumstances, especially in Egypt

"In my manner" as it says in Thomas, ⲧⲁϩⲉ, is the exact same word for 'drunk'. I won't go there, but you know the effect...

I still think Satyros was a better gamble, but:

Min (Egyptian mnw[1]) is an ancient Egyptian god whose cult originated in the predynastic period (4th millennium BCE).[2] He was represented in many different forms, but was most often represented in male human form, shown with an erect penis which he holds in his right hand and an upheld left arm holding a flail.

Then I think of logion 62:

62. said IS : I say [dop] my(PL) Mystery to they-who be-worthy of my(PL) Mystery he-who your(F.SG) right-hand will make-be he there-is-not to-cause your(F.SG) left-hand understand : [dop] she/r make-be them

Your right hand makes them - Min, what is he holding in his right hand?
Trouble with the damn deities in Egypt is that there are so many of them, with such great overlap, that any of them will function the way a horoscope does: always a tempting bit of truth in it

Ah well. Fine point Lane, I'll ponder it - yet you can ascertain in the Commentary that I've gone over the 163k words of the LSJ already :/

I was under the impression that stiros is a Latin word for "ironed" or "stretched".

But we still have the problem of, are the koine letters T and P pronounced tau and rho? How do we know this?

Your impression is entirely mysterious, but Coptic is a(n Egyptian) language that busied itself greatly with Greek loanwords.
And yes, yet another great question. I have no idea, but I'll wake any amount of money that the mere assumption of it sufficed for biblical academic in order to erect the staurogram as proud product