Justin Martyr's 'Dialogue of Trypho' as Rhetoric

[mlinssen]

I am prepping Trypho for the same treatment that I put 1st Apology through Mac. I could tag along the stauro-stuff and the circumference

[MrMacSon]

I am prepping Trypho for the same treatment that I put 1st Apology through Mac. I could tag along the stauro-stuff and the circumference

It'd be good to stake it all out in Greek, though staked J is not as illustrious as crucified J
Oh, and the circumference will vary between the circumcision and the uncircumcision

[mlinssen]

I am prepping Trypho for the same treatment that I put 1st Apology through Mac. I could tag along the stauro-stuff and the circumference

It'd be good to stake it all out in Greek, though staked J is not as illustrious as crucified J

It's still one and the same word, me love. So I'll get both

Oh, and the circumference will vary between the circumcision and the uncircumcision

The dubious distinction merely points to circumstantial evidence I presume, but still I'll not circumnavigate the issue yet circumvent it and assail all circumstances even if that proves to be rather circuitous - and don't you dare mistake any and all of this for circumlocution

[MrMacSon]

Chapter	Significant Passage about Him
1-6
7	"[The Prophets] both glorified the Creator, the God and Father of all things, and proclaimed His Son, the Christ [sent] by Him ... these things cannot be perceived or understood by all, but only by the man to whom God and His Christ have imparted wisdom."
8	. Justin: men who are friends of Christ possessed me become acquainted with the Christ of God, and, after being initiated, live a happy life. Trypho's challenge/s: " But Christ--if He has indeed been born, and exists anywhere--is unknown " " having accepted a groundless report, invent a Christ for yourselves, and for his sake are inconsiderately perishing." .
9	Justin: "[you] have been persuaded by teachers who do not understand the Scriptures"
10	. Trypho: "you observe no festivals or sabbaths, and do not have the rite of circumcision; and further, resting your hopes on a man that was crucified, you yet expect to obtain some good thing from God, while you do not obey His commandments." .
11	. "... we see and are persuaded that men approach God... and we see and are persuaded that men approach God, leaving their idols and other unrighteousness, through the name of Him who was crucified, Jesus Christ, and abide by their confession even unto death, and maintain piety ... " For the true spiritual Israel, and descendants of Judah, Jacob, Isaac, and Abraham (who in uncircumcision was approved of and blessed by God on account of his faith, and called the father of many nations), are we who have been led to God through this crucified Christ, as shall be demonstrated while we proceed." .
12-22	. a few mentions of Christ Justin's accusation at the end of chap.17: "you selected and sent out from Jerusalem chosen men through all the land to tell that the godless heresy of the Christians had sprung up" .
23	"[no more need of circumcision] because Jesus Christ the Son of God has been born without sin"
24	" the blood of that circumcision is obsolete, and we trust in the blood of salvation; there is now another covenant, and another law has gone forth from Zion. Jesus Christ circumcises all who will--as was declared above--with knives of stone; that they may be a righteous nation, a people keeping faith, holding to the truth, and maintaining peace."
25-29	. Christs and a bit of circumcision chapter 28: " if he has the knowledge of God and of His Christ, and keeps the everlasting righteous decrees, he is circumcised with the good and useful circumcision, and is a friend of God, and God rejoices in his gifts and offering" .
30	. "... For we do continually beseech God by Jesus Christ to preserve us from the demons which are hostile to the worship of God ... For we call Him Helper and Redeemer, the power of whose name even the demons do fear; and at this day, when they are exorcised in the name of Jesus Christ, crucified under Pontius Pilate governor of Judaea..." .
31
32	. Trypho: "this so-called Christ of yours was dishonourable and inglorious, so much so that the last curse contained in the law of God fell on him, for he was crucified." Justin: "... until He makes His enemies His footstool; which indeed happens from the time that our Lord Jesus Christ ascended to heaven, after He rose again from the dead ... the Lord is called the Christ by the Holy Spirit of prophecy ..." .
33	. Melchizedek* and Hezekiah are invoked by Justin * described by Moses as the priest of the Most High, and he was a priest of those who were in uncircumcision .
34	Justin: "Gentiles who know God, the Maker of all things through Jesus the crucified,...abide every torture and vengeance even to the extremity of death, rather than worship idols"
35	. Trypho said, "I believe, however, that many of those who say that they confess Jesus, and are called Christians, eat meats offered to idols, and declare that they are by no means injured in consequence." Justin "The fact that there are such men confessing themselves to be Christians, and admitting the crucified Jesus to be both Lord and Christ, yet not teaching His doctrines, but those of the spirits of error, causes us who are disciples of the true and pure doctrine of Jesus Christ, to be more faithful and stedfast in the hope announced by Him ... "For he said, 'Many shall come in My name, clothed outwardly in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." And, 'There shall be schisms and heresies.' And, 'Beware of false prophets, who shall come to you clothed outwardly in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.' And, 'Many false Christs and false apostles shall arise, and shall deceive many of the faithful.' ... confessors of Jesus in name only ... Some are called Marcians, and some Valentinians, and some Basilidians, and some Saturnilians, and others by other names; each called after the originator of the individual opinion, just as each one of those who consider themselves philosophers, as I said before, thinks he must bear the name of the philosophy which he follows, from the name of the father of the particular doctrine ... "...Wherefore we pray for you and for all other men who hate us; in order that you, having repented along with us, may not blaspheme Him who, by His works, by the mighty deeds even now wrought through His name, by the words He taught, by the prophecies announced concerning Him, is the blameless, and in all things irreproachable, Christ Jesus; but, believing on Him, may be saved in His second glorious advent, and may not be condemned to fire by Him." .