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you could give the money away, all of it. that would really make heads explode if all that time you'd not spent a penny on yourself!
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mlinssen wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:37 amIt would be a good joke of course, to become an evangelical hotshot and wring some money out of them, and then to lift the veil after a few years
If you haven't already, watch the 1972 documentary "Marjoe". Marjoe Gortner was a televangelist from about the age of 4. His name was created from "Mary" and "Joseph". He was brought up in a televangelist family and was taught the tricks of the trade from an early age. The cynicism of that family towards their audience is overwhelming.

Even if you know that those telepreachers are scammers out to fleece people, your mind will still be blown by the documentary. And it was made in 1972! Unfortunately I can't find the whole thing on Youtube, but this is a 9 min clip from it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-NwKD9laZw

(ETA) Here is Marjoe preaching as a child. He already knew he was acting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6TNu-yY4h4
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Not sure I've got the fortitude to watch that you must be braver than me lol. The cynicism is real, when Peter Popoff was busted as outright scammer he laid low then I saw some Christian channel has him back on again, it's such a suck fest and phony. The funny thing is though, films like Dodgeball rip into this. White Goodman ("I created myself" lol) is the false corporate Jesus and 'Globogym' his religion, then Peter with his 'Average Joe's gym is the real Jesus.
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GakuseiDon wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 1:42 am
mlinssen wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:37 amIt would be a good joke of course, to become an evangelical hotshot and wring some money out of them, and then to lift the veil after a few years
If you haven't already, watch the 1972 documentary "Marjoe". Marjoe Gortner was a televangelist from about the age of 4. His name was created from "Mary" and "Joseph". He was brought up in a televangelist family and was taught the tricks of the trade from an early age. The cynicism of that family towards their audience is overwhelming.

Even if you know that those telepreachers are scammers out to fleece people, your mind will still be blown by the documentary. And it was made in 1972! Unfortunately I can't find the whole thing on Youtube, but this is a 9 min clip from it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-NwKD9laZw

(ETA) Here is Marjoe preaching as a child. He already knew he was acting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6TNu-yY4h4
Thanks Don! All telepreachers are scammers of course.
Poor kid, it's terrible child abuse, and and awful drug to spoon-feed someone

Looks like he staged this documentary in order to get his ticket out, and it worked
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davidmartin wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 1:17 am you could give the money away, all of it. that would really make heads explode if all that time you'd not spent a penny on yourself!
Only if you also stuck a lit stick of dynamite in their mouth lol.
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