Presume all you want KunigundeKunigunde Kreuzerin wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2023 1:23 amYou may remember this thread, in which I have shown how many things are attested to Marcion's gospel that one would actually assume with certainty do not appear in it. It may therefore be self-evident to you that verses 38-39 were absent, but not in the slightest to me. I say that very kindly.Giuseppe wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 8:18 pm obviously the verse 38-39 are the quintessence of harmonization:
38 But new wine must be put into fresh wine skins, and both are preserved. 39 No man having drunk old wine immediately desires new, for he says, ‘The old is better.’ ”
Impossible their presence in Marcion.
According to the attestations, there are things in Marcion's Gospel that make sense against the background of his theology (or what we believe his theology was), such as the beginning with the descent to Capernaum. On the other hand, there are passages that seem completely contrary to his theology, such as the appeal to the Mosaic law and the prophets, the full empowerment of the 12 with the Spirit, etc.
I presume I understand a little bit why Mark, Matthew, Luke and John were written/redacted and with what intention. But Marcion's gospel has the problem that much of its attested content does not agree with what is known about its theology. This is why it makes sense to think of Marcion's gospel as an editing of Luke. Klinghardt knows this and tries to solve this problem in such a way that the text was not written by Marcion, but only used. But then it would be obvious that the text was written by a harmonizer who kept Paul on a short leash and one would wonder why Marcion didn't get that.
Giuseppe is half right there, as the preservation phrase certainly was absent in *Ev. The other however most have been present and even contain the word 'immediately'
For the full argumentation to that
https://www.academia.edu/100743526