Is Klinghardt a scholar whose arguments are worth studying? Or is Klinghardt just a storyteller like Vinzent and Trobisch?
Giuseppe found Klinghardt's argument on the question about fasting to be a "persuasive point". In this thread, I will examine the question in detail because Ken's response was so gentle, but I'm not.
In order to present the problem in greater depth, I will begin with a synopsis of the synoptic gospels. I use the text of NA28 and a word by word translation (in brackets are necessary English filler words).
Luke 5:33 | Mark 2:18 | Matthew 9:14 |
Οἱ δὲ εἶπαν πρὸς αὐτόν·οἱ μαθηταὶ Ἰωάννου νηστεύουσιν πυκνὰ καὶ δεήσεις ποιοῦνται ὁμοίως καὶ οἱ τῶν Φαρισαίων, οἱ δὲ σοὶ ἐσθίουσιν καὶ πίνουσιν | καὶ ἔρχονται καὶ λέγουσιν αὐτῷ·διὰ τί οἱ μαθηταὶ Ἰωάννου καὶ οἱ μαθηταὶ τῶν Φαρισαίων νηστεύουσιν, οἱ δὲ σοὶ μαθηταὶ οὐ νηστεύουσιν | Τότε προσέρχονται αὐτῷ οἱ μαθηταὶ Ἰωάννου λέγοντες·διὰ τί ἡμεῖς καὶ οἱ Φαρισαῖοι νηστεύομεν [πολλά], οἱ δὲ μαθηταί σου οὐ νηστεύουσιν |
They however said to him: The disciples (of) John fast often and prayer (they) make, likewise also they (of) the Pharisees, they however, yours, eat and drink. | and (they) come and say him: Because (of) what the disciples (of) John and the disciples (of) the Pharisees fast, they however, your disciples not fast? | Then come-to him the disciples (of) John, saying: Because (of) what we and the Pharisees fast [much], they however, disciples (of) you not fast? |
There are some striking differences between Luke on the one hand and Mark and Matthew on the other hand
- in Mark and Matthew a question is asked, in Luke a statement is made
- in Mark and Matthew the first two groups are connected by the word "and", in Luke by the word "likewise"
- in Mark and Matthew it is said that the disciples of Jesus "do not fast", but in Luke they "eat"
- in Mark and Matthew both the mention of the prayers and the drinking of the disciples are missing