Bill O'Reilly's Killing Jesus

[outhouse]

Ive been watching Candida's work closely, she claims Jesus is stating you need to give up all your possession to release yourself from hell, as the only way to get to heaven.

Hoping im following this right. One can view her new interview when she was on his show.


On her facebook page she has the apologist in a up roar. Not sure if she is using negative attention to sell her books.


Even seen Tom V popping in to catch her in her admitted mistake.


Im a bit confused if this is her apologetic view or a historical one, but I believe its a combination of both after going through her post.

[stephan happy huller]

Ive been watching Candida's work closely

I have a funnier story. I am friends with Ms Moss on Facebook and it is hilarious to see all the men kiss up to her because she is young and pretty. I like Candida very much and think she is very intelligent and qualified in every respect. But I have always said since the Stephanie Fisher case was brought to my attention that attractive women could walk all over these desperate men in religious studies. I don't think they get much.

[Peter Kirby]

Not sure if she is using negative attention to sell her books.

Both negative and positive, it seems.

[stephan happy huller]

Did I ever tell the story about the time this professor I know called me to help fix his computer because it wasn't working. When I looked at it, it was filled with viruses from looking at too much porn.

[Peter Kirby]

Back on topic, however, Moss is one of many to cut this thing to shreds. It's a pity O'Reilly didn't get a better ghost writer. Even if there were inevitable backreadings of O'Reilly's political beliefs into the text, it might still have been salvageable if the writer actually made use of the opportunity to engage a wide public and bring them current with some of the research into Christian origins / historical Jesus of the past few decades. Surely that can be done while remaining interesting and readable.

[stephan happy huller]

All I can say is that she's the hot thing among the academics. I don't mean her looks. It really is amazing to see how big a deal her appearance on O'Reilly's show was for all the big scholars. I think when Ehrman appeared on Comedy Central that wasn't even as significant. I guess the Factor has a wider audience - but in the male almost dead to just about dead category.

[outhouse]

Ive been watching Candida's work closely

I have a funnier story. I am friends with Ms Moss on Facebook and it is hilarious to see all the men kiss up to her because she is young and pretty. I like Candida very much and think she is very intelligent and qualified in every respect. But I have always said since the Stephanie Fisher case was brought to my attention that attractive women could walk all over these desperate men in religious studies. I don't think they get much.

She was nice enough to respond to a message I sent her. Thought that was pretty cool.

I have only seen Tom V there, havnt seen you yet.

Ive seen a few kissing up, but none with advanced skills lol

[outhouse]

Back on topic, however, Moss is one of many to cut this thing to shreds. It's a pity O'Reilly didn't get a better ghost writer. Even if there were inevitable backreadings of O'Reilly's political beliefs into the text, it might still have been salvageable if the writer actually made use of the opportunity to engage a wide public and bring them current with some of the research into Christian origins / historical Jesus of the past few decades. Surely that can be done while remaining interesting and readable.

I don't think anyone can ignore how much the socioeconomic impact of oppression and taxation in Galilee and the politics they had to endure.


But Bills book surely wasn't the best way to go about it, with his over attributing attitude.


Id like to see a scholars focus on the socioeconomic division of Hellenism and Galilean Judaism.

[Peter Kirby]

Back on topic, however, Moss is one of many to cut this thing to shreds. It's a pity O'Reilly didn't get a better ghost writer. Even if there were inevitable backreadings of O'Reilly's political beliefs into the text, it might still have been salvageable if the writer actually made use of the opportunity to engage a wide public and bring them current with some of the research into Christian origins / historical Jesus of the past few decades. Surely that can be done while remaining interesting and readable.

I don't think anyone can ignore how much the socioeconomic impact of oppression and taxation in Galilee and the politics they had to endure.


But Bills book surely wasn't the best way to go about it, with his over attributing attitude.


Id like to see a scholars focus on the socioeconomic division of Hellenism and Galilean Judaism.

Richard Horsley's books Jesus and Spiral of Violence and Bandits, Prophets, and Messiahs are still relevant.

Yes, the Romans were an issue, and I don't think taxes at any time in history have been welcomed. Judeans might possibly have felt a squeeze in that they were expected to support both the Roman Empire and also what remained of the Jewish nation, including but not limited to the Temple.

But the real problem was simply that the Jewish nation was under foreign rule. There'd still be a big problem even if the Romans had no taxes.

Getting this wrong would be like saying Afghan or Iraqi rebels of these days resent the imposition of taxes by American occupiers.

Nope... it's the occupation, [stupid].

(a la "it's the economy...")

[outhouse]

Occupation. Absolutely.

Its my opnion there was a difference between Jerusalem oppression under the Roman sword, and Galilean oppression under Antipas.

I dont think the details in differences were major, but in Galilee there was a socioeconomic divide between the Rich Jewish Hellenist running the show in places like Sepphoris and Tiberius, and the peasant Galilean agrarian Jewish class.

I would love to be able to use use the term traditional Judaism VS Hellenist, but in Jesus time I dont think anyone can label any sort of Judaism as traditional or orthodox. I think scholarships fall short ATM trying to even define the Zealot's based on such limited information we have to deal with.