About Romans 8:20

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Giuseppe
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About Romans 8:20

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For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope
Who is "the One who subjected it" (the creation) "to futility" ?

According to Gordon Rylands, he cannot be Satan (who is a demon, a fallen angel).

He is "the god of this world", the "prince of the power of air" (a being superior to Satan). The Creator God of the Jews.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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That's it?
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So Rylands:
Carnal men are supposed to become the prey of a misleading and avenging daemon, "the Corrupter,""the Destroyer,""the Dragon" of the Odes of Solomon,and the "god of this world" of the Pauline Epistles. The "god of this world" is not, however, a daemon in the ordinary signification of the term, nor is he Satan, For Satan is an evil angel—a daemon if you like—who has never been held to be a god.The Pauline god of this world is apparently the creator of it,to whom its imperfections are to be ascribed, since we are told (Rom.viii,20) "the creation was subjected to vanity,not of its own will,but through him who subjected it."The statement involves the Pauline and Gnostic belief in the intrinsic imperfection of matter, for which Satan could not be made responsible,though its creator might be.The Pauline dualism is thus at a stage beyond that of the earliest Jewish Gnostics.
therefore the historical Paul did hate the god of the Jews.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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