Does Origen clearly say which John James is the son of? I may be missing something here!How would John the Baptist being the same as John of Zebedee resolve Origen writing as if James is the son, instead of the brother, of John? I may be missing something
But if 'of John' originally referred to him being a son of John the baptist, or even just perhaps a disciple.. it would explain why he doesn't say the son of Zebedee as Zebedee and J the B could be the same person
Also, if Zebedee is John the B, then Salome was his wife too!
which could explain the curious note in Celcus of a group of Christians who claimed to follow Salome, if she was effectively John's no. 2 that would figure
And how ironic and strange the tale of another 'Salome' ordering the head of John (if that version is correct regarding the daughter of Herodias)... as if someone wanted to retain John's memory but blot out Salome's.