MrMacSon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:09 pm
rgprice wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:33 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Philo never seems to address the underlying Hebrew names of "God" in the scriptures. In On the Change of Names
, and some other places, he talks about "God" vs "the Lord" but doesn't seem to address these as names, but rather as titles using the Greek terms. It seems like Philo was reading Κύριος and Theos, or is that not the case?
- I'm not knowledgeable on Philo on this, sorry.
But, are YHWH, God/Theo, and Κύριος ever not titles?
Some of Paul's epistles have lots of Lord Jesus Christ
I think the likes of Philo and Paul—especially Paul—were playing with words, and Paul comes across as baiting and switching in his use of κύριος (Kyrios)/ Lord for Jesus and use of the Lord alone. In a time of tremendous theological fluidity - probably the time and place—the region—of the most theological fluidity ever (perhaps matched by the USA 2016-2020: all hail Q)
(Paul baits and switches about the Law from mid-Galatians 2(ff) )
There are times in the scriptures when "lord" simply means lord.
This is a good example that leads into the use of "Lord" as a substitute for YHWH:
1 Lord, our Lord, How majestic is Your name in all the earth,
You who have displayed Your splendor above the heavens!
This was originally, "YHWH, our lord...". Which is interesting, because it shows the application of the title lord to YHWH by the original author.
Another such example:
Psalm 16:2 I said to the Lord, “You are my Lord;
I have nothing good besides You.”
"I said to YHWH, 'You are my lord...'"
Here is just lord meaning lord:
Psalm 45: 11 Then the King will crave your beauty. Because He is your lord, bow down to Him.
I find it interesting that Paul and early Christians made so much use of the Psalms and Isaiah, with very little use of the Torah. This seems to support Barker's thesis, that Christianity and other similar second-God movements developed out of older traditions. Paul uses scriptures where the distinction between "God" and "the Lord" is more apparent.