Giuseppe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:34 am So the Josippon passage as reconstructed by Robert Eisler (p. 111 of this book):
About this Eleazar, I am advancing two/three possibilities.
- 1) If he is the same Beloved Disciple (=Lazzarus), then he had free access to the house of the high priest, in John 18:15-17:
...Hence he could be Eleazar ben Ananias, i.e. a son of a high priest (Ananias b. Nebedeus, 46-52 CE). His connection with the Idumeans may explain the reference to 'Edom' in the Yosippon passage.
- 2) There is another Eleazar in Josephus, i.e. Eleazar b. Jair, the last rebel in Masada. His existence is inferred by this archeological evidence:
445. MASADA - OSTRACON INSCRIBED: "BEN YAIR", WHICH WAS THE NAME OF ONE OF THE LEADERS OF THE REVOLT AGAINST THE ROMANS
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-445-m ... 80109.html
What is surprising is that the resurrection of Lazarus is not found in the Synoptics. In his place there is the resurrection... ...of the "daughter of Jair"! Coincidence?
- 3) A third possibility is that Josephus confused deliberately the two Eleazars. He first defamed the Eleazar b. Ananias by making him the betrayer and killer of Menahem, and then he removed from him his heroic act of resistance in Masada, by referring said action to a "distinct" Eleazar (b. Jair).
so, if 'Eleazar' was ben Ananias, or ben Jair, or ben X, what did it matter after all?
Reconstructing who was really 'Eleazar' is not even important, since these Eleazar(es?) were all involved in the tragic Rivolt against the Romans and had caused the destruction of the temple: whoever that "Eleazar" was, every trace of a connection between him and Jesus b. Sapphat had to be forgotten, erased, extinguished.
To Maryhelena: to know the real origins of Christianity, one has to apply on the First Jewish Revolt the Eraclitean aphorism:
Πόλεμος πάντων μὲν πατήρ ἐστι, πάντων δὲ βασιλεύς
“War is father and king of everything”
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