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Re: Hegesippus vis-a-vis "James son of Alphaeus" and "Judas of James" in Luke-Acts
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 4:35 am
by davidmartin
when a movement that's being taken over by outsiders reaches the point that the outsiders are fighting with each other, that's when Galatians get's written and when history get's rewritten then you have Acts
Re: Hegesippus vis-a-vis "James son of Alphaeus" and "Judas of James" in Luke-Acts
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 1:20 am
by gryan
I note with interest that a two Jameses in Gal thesis such as mine has been put forward before:
"It is assumed [by Wieseler,
Ueber die Bruder etc.]... that two persons of the same name, James the son of Alphaeus and James the Lord's brother, were leading members of the church of Jerusalem, though history points to only one." (p. 90 of
St. Paul's Epistle to the Galatians :by Lightfoot, Joseph Barber, 1828-1889).
In a footnote on p. 90 Lightfoot explains a bit more: "According to this writer the James of Gal. ii. 9 and the Acts is the son of Alphaeus, not the Lord's brother, and thererfore different from the James of i. 19. (See his notes on Gal. i. 19; ii. 9. Wieseler,
Ueber die Bruder etc., l. c., p. 80 sqq.)"
https://archive.org/details/stpaulsepis ... 9/mode/1up
I agree with this Wieseler, but my lack of ability to read German prevents me from tracing this reference to its source.
Re: Hegesippus vis-a-vis "James son of Alphaeus" and "Judas of James" in Luke-Acts
Posted: Fri May 14, 2021 12:08 pm
by gryan
gryan wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 1:20 am
I note with interest that a two Jameses in Gal thesis such as mine has been put forward before:
"It is assumed [by Wieseler,
Ueber die Bruder etc.]... that two persons of the same name, James the son of Alphaeus and James the Lord's brother, were leading members of the church of Jerusalem, though history points to only one." (p. 90 of
St. Paul's Epistle to the Galatians :by Lightfoot, Joseph Barber, 1828-1889).
In a footnote on p. 90 Lightfoot explains a bit more: "According to this writer the James of Gal. ii. 9 and the Acts is the son of Alphaeus, not the Lord's brother, and thererfore different from the James of i. 19. (See his notes on Gal. i. 19; ii. 9. Wieseler,
Ueber die Bruder etc., l. c., p. 80 sqq.)"
https://archive.org/details/stpaulsepis ... 9/mode/1up
I agree with this Wieseler, but my lack of ability to read German prevents me from tracing this reference to its source.
This Wieseler also wrote a commentary on Galatians:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Co ... frontcover