Jax wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:36 am
I appreciate that you always use IS when discussing this subject, I prefer to do this myself. You mention that IHS is also used in Thomas, do you have any thoughts on this?
Sure do
Get the beautiful and fully complete concordance from the Translation and you can see it is used only in logion 13, 22 and 90. That's another reason for ditching the Oxyrhynchus papyri: they have it all over the place, whereas it is highly unusual to have a protagonist change names, of course.
The religiots will pretend that it's completely normal, but if you start writing Josus or Jasus instead of Jesus they'll object
IS is a concept, and the eta (H) is added only on very important occasions:
Anyone will agree that logion 13 is a pivotal one with Simon and Matthew giving the dumb answers and Thomas giving the right answer, which is that IS can't be compared at all
Logion 22 is large and continues to stress which two's to make one, and basically it says that everything is two and should be made one: unlearn, stop the separation and dualisation, and you'll enter the kingdom. That actually is all one needs to know and in essence it is very clear, although the various details are puzzling
Logion 90 - I am mulling on it. The yoke can only be a joke, what Thomas tasks one with takes continuous attention, the son of man is not allowed any rest (or Repose, for that matter). I think he is imitating the religious leaders and others, but everyone knows that the easy was only leads to hardship - and vice versa
So there we have the three logia where IS suddenly is IHS: one that declares that he isn't a person whatsoever, one that contains his core message on how to enter the kingdom, and one that is very concise and which I can't take seriously:
90 said IHS : come!(PL) toward I : a Kind-one is my yoke and my(F) lordship a gentle-man is(F) and you(PL) will fall to a Repose to you(PL)
Logion 82 is the one where IS identifies himself, sort of: fire. Feminine fire, not the masculine one that is used on the other 3 occasions - IS equates to feminine fire.
The one crazy idea that I have followed up on is transcribing the Coptic letters by their numeric value (10, 8, 200). Hebrew gives a very interesting result there: יִחַר
Burning with anger,
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/le ... 2734&t=KJV
Mad as hell, is what Thomas was, I think. I would need to explain IS in relation to this explanation, but I can't, I know no Hebrew at all.
But is IHS a name? Never in the history of mankind has it occurred that the protagonist of a story changes name back and forth, and everyone waltzes over it just like that. No one has ever tried to make sense of Thomas, all they have done is try to squeeze him into their pathetic little boxes
I don't know what the H stands for, it is not anything Coptic. Coptic does use the letter a a word but only as Greek loanword for the same letter: "or",
https://coptot.manuscriptroom.com/crum- ... a&tla=C782
Interesting thing is that it's called heta of course, but in Bohairic (which unfortunately is one of the few dialects NOT used in Thomas) that is written ϩⲁⲧⲉ, "flow of water" and it's verb definition is "to flow".
The feminine fire of logion 82 is ⲥⲁⲧⲉ,
https://coptic-dictionary.org/entry.cgi?tla=C3762 - and there comes a point where I'm getting the feeling that I'm merely trying to make ends meet, seeing things that I want to see, gratefully abusing the fact that Thomas allegedly is so cryptic. I just don't know why it's there, logion 13 has masculine fire in it and there is the little riddle of the feminine something burning the disciples, which can only be the boiling fountain.
No burning things in 22 or 90, so it's a dead end in that way
I wish I really knew Coptic. I also wish that those who do know Coptic aren't blind as a bat and more orthodox and conservative than Irenaeus. So very few people who can think outside the box