Were the Gospels Established by 'Other-Worldly' Means? Do Scholars Need to Defend Their Belief in 'Other-Worldliness'?
Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 7:42 am
In another forum I am discussing whether or not the canonical gospels are the original gospels. According to most 'experts' it's obvious. The Church Fathers always cite from these four texts. The Church Fathers are our only sources for information about the gospels. As such it's a no brainer - because we have no information about other gospels from other sources the gospels are original and true. But the presumption here that 'everything that matters' or 'everything that is true' is always written down or spoken about is silly. Sorry it's stupid, idiotic, nonsensical, not worth considering. That's why I go time and again to sex as an example. For most people, sex is all that matters. This isn't true for today as an 'evil generation' - a somehow 'perverted' era or whatever. People have been obsessed about sex since the beginning of time. All we've done is made some 'new wrinkles' for why paying for sex is bad - i.e. the 'exploitation of women' has now replaced the 'sinfulness of sex.'
I will be honest. No one talks about paying for sex because of its criminality. But everyone does it. Everyone with means pays for sex in one way or another. You don't see 'serious books' written about it. For instance, the way I see things work today is as follows:
For years the mass media the 'official media' was showing wholesome images of families and marriages. Mary Tyler Moore and Dick Van Dyke were sleeping in two separate beds. This complete fake reality was believed by most (at least officially) but secretly people whispered the truth, the truth that everyone was paying for sex. Where is it written, in what journal do you find the truth that 'real sex' (remember that HBO show) is ONLY obtained by money and cash outlay? Like recreational sex, fun sex, whatever you want to call it? This is the truth of the world. All that they fill the universities with is complete bullshit. Married couples don't have sex, they have obligation. Two fat people rubbing sweaty bodies together thinking about recreational sex, fun sex whatever. This is like the gospels. It's at least possible that 'the truth' disappeared and something else - something wholly contrived replaced it. The fact that a lie is perpetuated for centuries isn't remarkable or noteworthy. It happens all the time, it's rule rather than the exception.
I will be honest. No one talks about paying for sex because of its criminality. But everyone does it. Everyone with means pays for sex in one way or another. You don't see 'serious books' written about it. For instance, the way I see things work today is as follows:
The point is that no one writes or talks about this even now. Before this there were other ways of obtaining sex workers and everyone was doing it. I heard stories last night about my mother in law and her father. They lived in Trinidad but were originally from Venezuela having been collaborators with a brutal dictator and fled to the neighboring island with a ton of cash. Apparently her father left his wife in Caracas and was sleeping with 'black girls' the rest of his life. My mother in law was always embarrassed about the whispers.1. sleazy women get on social media forums (there used to Periscope but I don't know what replaced it). These forums are regulated to prevent prostitution and pornography
2. they give out their Snapchat or other less regulated forums where they can 'conversate' with men
3. men pay for sex or masturbate with these women (or men I guess I am too focused on heterosexuality)
For years the mass media the 'official media' was showing wholesome images of families and marriages. Mary Tyler Moore and Dick Van Dyke were sleeping in two separate beds. This complete fake reality was believed by most (at least officially) but secretly people whispered the truth, the truth that everyone was paying for sex. Where is it written, in what journal do you find the truth that 'real sex' (remember that HBO show) is ONLY obtained by money and cash outlay? Like recreational sex, fun sex, whatever you want to call it? This is the truth of the world. All that they fill the universities with is complete bullshit. Married couples don't have sex, they have obligation. Two fat people rubbing sweaty bodies together thinking about recreational sex, fun sex whatever. This is like the gospels. It's at least possible that 'the truth' disappeared and something else - something wholly contrived replaced it. The fact that a lie is perpetuated for centuries isn't remarkable or noteworthy. It happens all the time, it's rule rather than the exception.