Marcion and Thomas in all of Luke

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Re: Marcion and Thomas in all of Luke

Post by mlinssen »

Stuart wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 8:40 am You have gone a bridge too far, much like Stephen Huller (Secret Alias) in creating a false dichotomy with reading Tertullian. It's not a case of always faithful or never faithful. Many things are at play, especially in a long work where a writer is trying to keep their train of thought over perhaps absolute accuracy.

In the main Tertullian reports faithfully text before him.
Indeed. Very faithfully - full of the faith, to be honest.
I have just showed you all of Epiphanius, from all his "against blahblah" booklets. He isn't consistent at all, and to be honest it doesn't matter really whether it's the third day or after three days

It's rhetoric and politics, all of it. And it will always be, it's what gave birth to Christianity, and it is what keeps it alive
Do not throw the baby out with the bath water, and do not create a false dichotomy of all accurate or just wild inaccurate reporting.
The question was, and is: is Tertullian accurate enough to give us Marcion in a reliable form?

No, most certainly not - is my conclusion. Likewise for Epiphanius.
But that doesn't mean that we can't "get some" from them; a page or two / three of allegedly absent material and a page or so of likely present material that's different from Luke

That's all
Rather we should weigh their testimony
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