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Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:19 am
by Steven Avery
Too much flying conjectures and railing accusations.

You could far more easily complain about the missing supposed invisible allegory of spirit, water and blood!

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:27 am
by Investigator
Steven Avery wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:12 amDup
Is that what you think the literal non-allegorical meaning of Potamius' "three tents" reference is?

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:29 am
by Investigator
Steven Avery wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:19 am Too much flying conjectures and railing accusations.

You could far more easily complain about the missing supposed invisible allegory of spirit, water and blood!
To much avoidance of the obvious (by you) and an obvious incapability of replying to the substance of the argumentation.

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:31 am
by Investigator
Steven Avery wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:19 am Too much flying conjectures and railing accusations.

You could far more easily complain about the missing supposed invisible allegory of spirit, water and blood!

Where's Potamius explanation of the "three tents" allegory, if it really is an explained allegory (let alone a literal explanation) Steven?

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:11 am
by Steven Avery
It is the spirit, water and blood that you claim as an allegory that is invisible.

The three of the tabernacles relate to the three of the Trinity.

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:22 am
by Investigator
Steven Avery wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:11 am It is the spirit, water and blood that you claim as an allegory that is invisible.

The three of the tabernacles relate to the three of the Trinity.
Where does Potamius unpack the meaning of "the Trinity" allegory of the "three tents", tent by tent, person by person as applying to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit? Which tent does Potamius say belongs to the Father?

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:51 pm
by Steven Avery
The focus is simply on the three analogy.

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:10 pm
by Investigator
Steven Avery wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:51 pm The focus is simply on the three analogy.
Then if what you say is true Steven, where does Potamius explain :eek: the meaning of the Trinity "analogy" of the "three tents", tent by tent, person by person as applying unambiguously :? the analogy :shock: to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit? Again, which tent :scratch: does Potamius say belongs to the Father (for example)?

Note: Emphasis is on "explain", as in your explained (visible) allegory >>> vs <<< un-explained (in-visible) allegory.

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:17 pm
by Investigator
Are you saying Potamius is using an in-visible (un-explained) "analogy" Steven? :shifty:

Re: Potamius of Lisbon references the heavenly witnesses in writing to Athanasius

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:26 pm
by Investigator
Perhaps Potamius (via Conti) explains the "three tents" analogy in the next sentence Steven. Does he?

Also, what metaphorical similarity does a "tent" have to the Trinity to belong to the category of an "analogy"?