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Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:04 am
by maryhelena
Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:20 am
by StephenGoranson
In other words, if you presume Paul is fictional, why presume the remainder of these two verses is non-fictional?
Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:35 am
by maryhelena
StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:20 am
In other words, if you presume Paul is fictional, why presume the remainder of these two verses is non-fictional?
Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:45 am
by StephenGoranson
Or, if there were no "Paul" to go to Damascus, why insist on Aretas III?
Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:04 am
by maryhelena
StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:45 am
Or, if there were no "Paul" to go to Damascus, why insist on Aretas III?
Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:09 am
by StephenGoranson
So, you don't know?
Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:09 am
by maryhelena
Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:32 am
by StephenGoranson
Because you (mh) have not explained why the travel of a person that you assert did not exist (Paul) could fictionally travel (actually not-travel) *only* during the non-fictional time that you assert, I am not persuaded.
Advice from you (mh) to read history books concerning the post-Hasmonean period—though I do read such sometimes—might seem peculiar, since you apparently mistrust much that is mentioned in them.
Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:06 am
by maryhelena
StephenGoranson wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:32 am
Because you (mh) have not explained why the travel of a person that you assert did not exist (Paul) could fictionally travel (actually not-travel) *only* during the non-fictional time that you assert, I am not persuaded.
Advice from you (mh) to read history books concerning the post-Hasmonean period—though I do read such sometimes—might seem peculiar, since you apparently mistrust much that is mentioned in them.
Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:14 am
by StephenGoranson
In other words, that cherry-picking of what is fiction and not does not cohere into a plausible narrative, much less history.