R. Stahl: Document 70
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:14 am
Thanks to both Neil and Greg, I am going to read Le document 70 by Robert Stahl.
Interesting the list of clues supporting Johannine priority over the Synoptics.
Interesting also the idea that "John the Baptist" was the real author of the original book of Revelation.
According to Stahl, it was just the importance of the Baptizer as author of Revelation to move "John" (author of proto-John) to make Jesus his contemporary, by placing his invented biography under Pilate.
Hence, it seems that Stahl concedes the traditional Josephian date for John the Baptist.
I wonder here if Doudna is on something about a confusion between the Josephian "John the Baptist" (= really, the misplaced Qumranic Teacher) and the real author of Book of Revelation (=John of Gischala and his priests).
Afterall, the "Document 70" (the original anti-Roman Book of Revelation) was composed, according to Stahl, in the 70 CE.
Another suggestive clue: both Acts and proto-John have as accuser (resp. of the disciples and of Jesus) Annas/Ananias/Ananus and not Kaiphas.
I wonder if the Josephian Ananus matters here, since he is said to have executed a James brother of Jesus. Beyond the interpolation question, it seems that a tradition connecting Ananus with a trial of Christ/Christians was very old (even if it moved a late interpolator to introduce "called Christ" in Ant. 20:200). Ananus was famous as anti-Zealot priest just before the first Jewish revolt.
The enigma Pilate is left unresolved by Stahl. Even so, I insist, I feel that he is on something about the connection John the Baptist/dating of Jesus under Pilate.
Interesting the list of clues supporting Johannine priority over the Synoptics.
Interesting also the idea that "John the Baptist" was the real author of the original book of Revelation.
According to Stahl, it was just the importance of the Baptizer as author of Revelation to move "John" (author of proto-John) to make Jesus his contemporary, by placing his invented biography under Pilate.
Hence, it seems that Stahl concedes the traditional Josephian date for John the Baptist.
I wonder here if Doudna is on something about a confusion between the Josephian "John the Baptist" (= really, the misplaced Qumranic Teacher) and the real author of Book of Revelation (=John of Gischala and his priests).
Afterall, the "Document 70" (the original anti-Roman Book of Revelation) was composed, according to Stahl, in the 70 CE.
Another suggestive clue: both Acts and proto-John have as accuser (resp. of the disciples and of Jesus) Annas/Ananias/Ananus and not Kaiphas.
I wonder if the Josephian Ananus matters here, since he is said to have executed a James brother of Jesus. Beyond the interpolation question, it seems that a tradition connecting Ananus with a trial of Christ/Christians was very old (even if it moved a late interpolator to introduce "called Christ" in Ant. 20:200). Ananus was famous as anti-Zealot priest just before the first Jewish revolt.
The enigma Pilate is left unresolved by Stahl. Even so, I insist, I feel that he is on something about the connection John the Baptist/dating of Jesus under Pilate.