Was Adonis portrayed as a boar?

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Was Adonis portrayed as a boar?

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As the myth goes, one day, Adonis was gored by a wild boar during a hunting trip and died in Aphrodite's arms as she wept.

Is a recognized fact of the history of religions that the sacrifical acts are carried from the subject to the object in the legends that are derived from them ?

I mean: Adonis was a boar and only after he was imagined as killed by the boar.
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Re: Was Adonis portrayed as a boar?

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Giuseppe wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:18 pm As the myth goes, one day, Adonis was gored by a wild boar during a hunting trip and died in Aphrodite's arms as she wept.

Is a recognized fact of the history of religions that the sacrifical acts are carried from the subject to the object in the legends that are derived from them ?

I mean: Adonis was a boar and only after he was imagined as killed by the boar.
quite likely -- and in connection with the famous love goddess I'm reminded of what a boar is commonly known to do: eats[,] roots and leaves



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Re: Adon of Afqa

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Giuseppe wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:18 pmIs a recognized fact of the history of religions that the sacrifical acts are carried from the subject to the object in the legends that are derived from them ?
Elaborate. Clarify.
As the myth goes, one day, Adonis was gored by a wild boar during a hunting trip and died in Aphrodite's arms as she wept.
I presume this topic is coming off my thread. From my review of (Lebanese/Syrian) Phoenician myths, there are many variants. The Adon of Afqa may be one of the original variants (I'm doubtful), but scholars have suggested several at this one site: a) the infant Adon, sacrificed b) the youth Adonis, murdered in jealousy c) Ershmun the Hunter, complex.
I mean: Adonis was a boar and only after he was imagined as killed by the boar.
Apollo is the Boar, in the Greek Myth. Adonis was human in the Afqa Myth; he is not reborn as a pig. Adon the Sacrificed Infant had a mortal father (King Cinyras) and mother (+Daughter =Incest Myth). Adonis the Gored Youth and Ershmun the Healer are conflated with many differing symbolic elements also. Personally I found the myth very confusing/complex/uncertain, and because scholars give a very wide range of interpretations, so it is 'murky' not factual.

Logically & intuitively (to me): the 'bleeding river' was first a prehistoric menstrual FEMALE symbol associated with fertility, prostitution, abortion/miscarriage. Note the reported orgies and/or ritual prostitution at Springtime, when the vermillion sediment appeared in the river water. These customs supposedly continued into the 19th C AD! Women climbed to the mountains, to wail over Winter's lost infants & children, and to renew the cycle (re-birth) of Life - by fucking, frankly. Who likes fucking the most? Adolescent MALES. In the mountains in Spring, feral swine -very dangerous animals- are rutting too, and male youth would hunt their meat and occasionally be gored. OR kill each other in jealous rivalry? Sad! But epic, in a mundane way. Imagine the oldest feast stories among the seasonally hungry, sexualized campers visiting ancient religious pools at the source, Afqa. Then temples are built (later: to Aphrodite/Venus) for those seeking renewal/rejuvenation and healing. Ahem... Don't forget the fucking - it was all about the fucking. And abit of Death/Murder.

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Re: Adon of Afqa

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billd89 wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:12 am
Giuseppe wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:18 pmIs a recognized fact of the history of religions that the sacrifical acts are carried from the subject to the object in the legends that are derived from them ?
Elaborate. Clarify.
translated where I want to arrive:

  • The old god Joshua crucifies the archons.
  • The archons crucify the new god Jesus.
With Dyonisos it works better:
  • Dyonisos dismembers his enemies (see the fate of Pentheus).
  • Dyonisos is also killed (he is dismembered by Titans).
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I don't believe Adonis is the Right Myth

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Wrong myth. Adonis wasn't transformed into a Boar, was he? And Jewish Jesus was never compared to feral swine (that I am aware of), it doesnt fit.

Kronos devoured his (Young) Son.
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Or sacrificed his child, in all his finery, on an altar? (Adult Jesus was naked on a cross.) Again, which variant of the myth do you mean: where does it come from exactly? I strongly suspect the Father-Sacrificing-Son motif was an ancient (Lebanese-Syrian) Phoenician Myth which the Northern Israelite Jews had adapted, but I havent seen that proven.
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