Where Mark is catholic

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Surely on a point: Mark is based on a version of Paul where there was the list of apparitions of 1 Cor 15.

Mark wants to prove that list, by having Peter and the others hallucinating Christ in Galilee.

Since 1 Cor 15 is absent in Marcion, then this is evidence that Mark was written after the catholic corruption of the marcionite epistles.
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Hence this confirms further my current view on the synoptic solution:

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For the original pseudo-Paul, the redemption took place at an indefinite time in the past, albeit near; for one cannot imagine the pseudo-Paul delivering the good news of redemption several centuries after the act of redemption... For the pseudo-Paul, the redeemer came without making himself known to men; It was in anonymity that he accomplished the work of redemption.


There must have existed a proto-gospel - perhaps the adoptionistic proto-Mark - which ignored the Passion, and involved a Christ who had come to Earth only as a teacher of wisdom. This proto-gospel, consisting mainly of logia, miracles and parables, did not include any historical reference.

The name of this pseudo-Paul was not even Paul. Since 'Paul' was the name interpolated in the epistles by the same interpolator of the list of apparitions in 1 Cor 15.

and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

For I am the least of the apostles and do not even deserve to be called an apostle,

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By removing the Passion story from Mark, the Messianic Secret ceases virtually to be revealed on the cross: Jesus is unknown from the beginning to the end of the gospel.

This proto-Mark without Passion, edited with the addition of the Passion, has the Messianic Secret revealed on the cross. This corruption of proto-Mark (by the addition of the Passion) would find his parallel in the interpolation of the crucifixion in the same pauline epistles.
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Hence, the Great Reaction of the deniers of a Jesus really suffering on the cross, is the direct consequence of the Resistance to the interpolated introduction of the Passion in the original story — and in the original myth — without Passion.
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Hence: 4 layers of the pauline epistles:
  • first layer: the revelation of a mystery hidden from a long time, only, it is not the crucifixion, but a secret revealer.
  • second layer: the addition of the crucifixion to the first layer.
  • third layer: Dualism, antinomism, marcionism.
  • fourth layer: catholicism.
Proto-Mark (= Mark without the final Passion) was written before the second layer.
Mark (= proto-Mark + the passion story) was written after the fourth layer.
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