Re: The Real Testimonium
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:03 pm
There's not necessarily any connection between Maximinus Daia's text (which places the events in the the fourth consulship of Tiberius and which evidently were acts "of Pilate," as stated elsewhere in Eusebius) and the story of the expulsion of the Jews from Rome under Tiberius, so I've split this out.Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:10 amI consider it worth remarking upon that this hypothesis would vindicate maryhelena:Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:58 am If this is at the same time as the other senate action in Annals 2.85, which was in "the same year" as the death of Germanicus, it was in the year 19. See here: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/tex ... apter%3D85
Eusebius provides witness to a tradition that Chrestus / Jesus was crucified under Tiberius but earlier (19 CE).maryhelena wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:34 pm2. Accordingly the forgery of those who have recently given currency to acts against our Saviour is clearly proved. For the very date given in them shows the falsehood of their fabricators. 3. For the things which they have dared to say concerning the passion of the Saviour are put into the fourth consulship of Tiberius, which occurred in the seventh year of his reign; at which time it is plain that Pilate was not yet ruling in Judea, if the testimony of Josephus is to be believed, who clearly shows in the above-mentioned work that Pilate was made procurator of Judea by Tiberius in the twelfth year of his reign.
Eusebius (2010-05-23). The History of the Church (p. 19). . Kindle Edition.
The 7th year of Tiberius = 19 c.e., from a co-regency or 21 c.e. from sole rule.