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Note at the end of Sinaiticus Job?

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:58 pm
by Blood
What is this note at the end of the book of Job (folio 199) in Codex Sinaiticus? Matthew begins on the next page (folio 200).

http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/manus ... omSlider=0

Job, 42:9 - 42:17 library: BL folio: 199b scribe: A

κηϲ βιβλου
εν μεν γη τη αυϲειτιδι κατοικων ·
επι τοιϲ οριοιϲ τηϲ ϊδουμαιαϲ
και αραβιαϲ
προϋπηρχεν δε αυτω ονομα ϊωβαβ
λαβων δε γυναικα αραβιϲϲαν
γεννα ϋϊον . ω ονομα εννων
ην δε αυτοϲ πατροϲ μεν ζαρε · των
ηϲαυ ϋϊων ϋϊοϲ
μητροϲ δε βοϲορραϲ
ωϲτε ειναι αυτον πεμπτον απο αβρααμ
και ουτοι οι βαϲιλειϲ · οι βαϲιλευϲαν
τεϲ εν εδωμʼ ηϲ και αυτοϲ
ηρξεν χωραϲ
πρωτοϲ βαλακ · ο του βαιωρ
και ονομα τη πολει αυτου δενναβα
μετα δε βαλακʼ ϊωβαβʼ ο καλουμενοϲ ϊωβʼ ·
μετα δε τουτον αϲομʼ ο ϋπαρχων ηγεμω
εκ τηϲ θαιμανιτιδοϲ χωραϲ
μετα δε τουτον αδαδʼ υϊοϲ βαρα ο εκκο
ψαϲ μαδιαμʼ εν τω παιδιω μωαβʼ
και ονομα τη πολει αυτου γεθθαιμ
οι δε ελθοντεϲ προϲ αυτον φιλοι
ελειφαζʼ των ηϲαυ ϋϊων ˙ θαιμα
νων βαϲιλευϲ
βαλδαδʼ ο ϲαυχαιων τυραννοϲ
ϲωιφαρ · ο μιναιων βαϲιλευϲ

(in a different, later hand)
ϊωβ
ὁ παλαιᾶϲ καὶ καινῆϲ διαθήκηϲ θϲ ˙ ὁ ἐν τριάδι ὑ
μνούμενοϲ ˙ καὶ ἐν μονάδι δοξολογούμενοϲ αὐτὸϲ
δέξαι τὴν μετάνοιαν τοῦ ἁμαρτωλοῦ θεοφυλά
κτου ˙ καὶ ἀξίωϲον αὐτὸν τυχεῖν τῆϲ βαϲιλείαϲ ϲου ˙ διὰ
ϲπλάχνα ἐλέουϲ ϲου ˙ καὶ ἐλέοϲ ἀμέτρητον:

Re: Note at the end of Sinaiticus Job?

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:15 am
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Blood wrote:What is this note at the end of the book of Job (folio 199) in Codex Sinaiticus? Matthew begins on the next page (folio 200).

ὁ παλαιᾶϲ καὶ καινῆϲ διαθήκηϲ θϲ ˙ ὁ ἐν τριάδι ὑ
μνούμενοϲ ˙ καὶ ἐν μονάδι δοξολογούμενοϲ αὐτὸϲ
δέξαι τὴν μετάνοιαν τοῦ ἁμαρτωλοῦ θεοφυλά
κτου ˙ καὶ ἀξίωϲον αὐτὸν τυχεῖν τῆϲ βαϲιλείαϲ ϲου ˙ διὰ
ϲπλάχνα ἐλέουϲ ϲου ˙ καὶ ἐλέοϲ ἀμέτρητον:
= Theophylact
a note of that scribe
Blood wrote:What is this note at the end of the book of Job (folio 199) in Codex Sinaiticus? Matthew begins on the next page (folio 200).

ὁ παλαιᾶϲ καὶ καινῆϲ διαθήκηϲ θϲ ˙ ὁ ἐν τριάδι ὑ
μνούμενοϲ ˙ καὶ ἐν μονάδι δοξολογούμενοϲ αὐτὸϲ
δέξαι τὴν μετάνοιαν τοῦ ἁμαρτωλοῦ θεοφυλά
κτου ˙ καὶ ἀξίωϲον αὐτὸν τυχεῖν τῆϲ βαϲιλείαϲ ϲου ˙ διὰ
ϲπλάχνα ἐλέουϲ ϲου ˙ καὶ ἐλέοϲ ἀμέτρητον:
some snippets with my poor Greek

old and new testament (covenant) of god ... glorified in trinity but one (?) ...take the repentance of the sinner Theophylact (?) ... and think worthy of him to receive your kingdom through your heart (?) of mercy and your countless mercy (?)

Re: Note at the end of Sinaiticus Job?

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:53 pm
by Steven Avery
Hi,

> "Kunigunde Kreuzerin"
> = Theophylact a note of that scribe

Some more info here:

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PureBible Forum
https://www.facebook.com/groups/purebib ... omments=49

CSP Transcription:
ϊωβ
ὁ παλαιᾶϲ καὶ καινῆϲ διαθήκηϲ θϲ ˙ ὁ ἐν τριάδι ὑ
μνούμενοϲ ˙ καὶ ἐν μονάδι δοξολογούμενοϲ αὐτὸϲ
δέξαι τὴν μετάνοιαν τοῦ ἁμαρτωλοῦ θεοφυλά
κτου ˙ καὶ ἀξίωϲον αὐτὸν τυχεῖν τῆϲ βαϲιλείαϲ ϲου ˙ διὰ
ϲπλάχνα ἐλέουϲ ϲου ˙ καὶ ἐλέοϲ ἀμέτρητον:

The part that is sometimes noted is where he references himself as the repentant sinner Theophylact.

τὴν μετάνοιαν τοῦ ἁμαρτωλοῦ θεοφυλά

Remember too that in Codex Simoneidos / Sinaiticus, this is the separation point from the OT and NT.

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When did the insertion of title-page for Old Testament and New Testament started?
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/q ... nt-started

just a restatement of a creed:

ϊωβ Job –
ὁ παλαιᾶϲ καὶ καινῆϲ διαθήκηϲ θϲ God’s (θϲ) Old and new teachings
˙ ὁ ἐν τριάδι ὑ μνούμενοϲ ˙ He in Trinity is one
καὶ ἐν μονάδι δοξολογούμενοϲ And is worshipped in one
αὐτὸϲ δέξαι He is glorified
τὴν μετάνοιαν τοῦ ἁμαρτωλοῦ θεοφυλά κτου ˙ by the repentance of sinners (added - SA "Theophylact")

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Steven Avery

Re: Note at the end of Sinaiticus Job?

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:30 pm
by DCHindley
διαθήκη , ἡ, (διατίθημι)

A.disposition of property by will, testament, Ar.V.584,589, D.27.13, etc.; κατὰ διαθήκην by will, OGI753.8 (Cilicia), Test.Epict.4.8, BGU1113.5 (i B.C.), etc.: in pl., “διαθήκας διαθέσθαι” Lys.19.39; “θέσθαι” CIG2690 (Iasus).

II. αἱ ἀπόρρητοι δ. [forbidden dispositions] mystic deposits on which the common weal depended, prob. oracles (cf. διαθέτης), Din.1.9 codd.

2. name of an eyesalve, because the recipe was deposited in a temple, Aët.7.118.

III. compact, covenant, “ἢν μὴ διαθῶνται διαθήκην ἐμοί” [this is not according to the arrangement of my covenant]Ar.Av.440; freq. in LXX, Ge. 6.18, al.; καινή, παλαιὰ δ. [good, ancient covenant], Ev.Luc.22.20, 2 Ep.Cor.3.14; disposition (with allusion to 1), Ep.Gal.3.15, cf. Ep.Hebr.9.15.

IV. = διάθεσις [placing in order, arrangement] 11 [= not clear what this refers to, does it mean II above, or is something missing?], “σώματος δ.” [bodily disposition] Democr.9.

you'll wonder where the yellow went

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:35 pm
by Steven Avery
Hi,

Keep in mind, though, that the physical evidence is against Sinaiticus being a 4th century text, and then its various notes being a bit later.

This can be easily seen in Codex Friderico-Augustanus, the part that went to Leipzig in 1844. By looking at its white parchment, no stain, pepsodent, condition

Steven

Re: you'll wonder where the yellow went

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:35 pm
by Maestroh
Steven Avery wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:35 pm Hi,

Keep in mind, though, that the physical evidence is against Sinaiticus being a 4th century text, and then its various notes being a bit later.
Narrator:
"Actually, the evidence shows otherwise>"

Steven Avery wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:35 pm This can be easily seen in Codex Friderico-Augustanus, the part that went to Leipzig in 1844. By looking at its white parchment, no stain, pepsodent, condition

Steven
Professor Bumbletwit here, who:
a) has ZERO expertise in any relevant religion field
b) thinks the moon landing was fake
c) thinks Building 7 was an inside job
d) is a rabid anti-vaxxer

isn't sharing with you the words of the professors who have basically told him he's full of it on this subject.

I can't imagine why.

Re: Note at the end of Sinaiticus Job?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:43 am
by mlinssen
viewtopic.php?p=147509#p147509

viewtopic.php?p=147540#p147540

I wonder when the follow up on those two will be...

Re: you'll wonder where the yellow went

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:16 am
by Ulan
Steven Avery wrote: Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:35 pm This can be easily seen in Codex Friderico-Augustanus, the part that went to Leipzig in 1844. By looking at its white parchment, no stain, pepsodent, condition
Funny that your still repeat this lie, although you have already admitted that this point is wrong. The Codex Friderico-Augustanus isn't white and has stains on every single page.