Are there hints of a Gnostic Jesus within the Canonical NT?

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Re: Are there hints of a Gnostic Jesus within the Canonical NT?

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davidmartin wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:21 am DL My thesis is the original Christians didn't believe in a substitutional punishment and someone else came up with that idea
Why does salvation have to be taking something away (sin) and not giving something that wasn't previously had?
The woman at the well episode in John is the earlier understanding of salvation being in the form of a gift. He didn't give her substitutional punishment at the well but a new husband, it says that in the footnotes, so how can substitutional punishment be the original salvation?
The original theory was not based on such immoral thinking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrDGgKunPsY

What makes you think that Christians want to rid us of sin, when they sing of Adam's sin as being a happy fault and necessary to God's plan.

If we do not sin, God's plan get's screwed.

Not what Christians would want at all. Right?

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Re: Are there hints of a Gnostic Jesus within the Canonical NT?

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Secret Alias wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:45 am I truly believe the way we use "gnostic" wasn't the way ancients used the term.
How do you believe the ancients used the term?
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