Ken Olson wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:12 pm
mlinssen wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:38 pm
Hi Ken, sorry for the ambushing - but I'm surfing the NHL indices again and ran into
KATHOLIKON
Katholicos.png
All of that from Codex VII
1. The Paraphrase of Shem (1:1-49:9)
Lovely translation of course, let's ignore that as usual - but when is the first time that this remarkable word gets used "by proper Christians"?
That's a bit outside my special expertise, but I think it's Ignatius Smyrnaeans 8.2 (if authentic, and possibly even if not, if still second century). I don't know the date of the MSS.
http://www.textexcavation.com/greekigna ... aeans.html
Thank you Ken!
I spent 5 minutes on Google and quickly drew my verdict: Eusebius is our source to Ignatius, so all this must be completely fake - and indeed it's the alleged "first use of the word catholic".
At least I now know where it comes from - LOL
There's a small footnote to it, by Jove!
SECOND TREATISE OF THE GREAT SETH 61.9-62,3 - NHL Codex VII Tractate 2, page 179
“universal”: Greek Ka0oXiK6v, and perhaps also a reference to “catholic” as used by the orthodox.
Simply amazing. It's not the only occurrence in the NHL, I flew by another few.
How is all this possible Ken, with all these great and magnificent scholars who had access to the NHL for decades, were supported by the bestest Universities in Da Universe, and themselves divinely Divinated? And then I come along, this foulmouth and loudmouth amateur, and I keep pulling treasure after treasure from it while merely glancing at it in the look for something different?
Nothing else in the comments of course, why am I not surprised. And then Stephen Emmel frowns at me - back at when I discovered the utter Chrestian complexion of the NHL, all neatly obfuscated by translating that with "Christian" - while asking "You're not suggesting that there's some conspiracy behind this are you" and I realise that it is no use - and perhaps not even very humane - to wake a dead man from his sleep when he's invested 5-6 decades of his life into a Lie
When will Christians demand honesty, sincerity and truth from their scholars and academics?
What will it take for the likes of you, Gathercole and Goodacre to stand up and shout?
"Thank you for sharing your research Martijn"
Sorry Ken, I have nothing but praise and respect for you, and you deserve nothing but from my point of view. But what does it take to turn all this around - what does it take to simply do the right thing?