Why Marcionites ended to accept the baptism of Jesus even if Marcion didn't

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Re: Why Marcionites ended to accept the baptism of Jesus even if Marcion didn't

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Secret Alias wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:16 am Epiphanius Panarion:
Marcionite baptism is not administered just once; in Marcionite
congregations it is allowable to give up to three baptisms and more to anyone who wishes, as I have heard from many
. (7) But he got into this way of
allowing the giving of three baptisms and even more because of the scorn
he suffered from his disciples who had known him, for his transgression
and the seduction of the virgin. (8) Since he was in a state of grievous sin
after seducing the virgin in his own city and fl eeing, the tramp invented a
second baptism for himself. He said that it is permissible for as many as
three baths, that is baptisms, to be given for the remission of sins, so that
if one were to fall away the fi rst time he might repent and, on repentance,
receive a second baptism—and a third likewise, if he transgresses after the
3,9 But to make his ridicule certain he mendaciously cites a text as supposedly persuasive, to show that he was cleansed again after his transgression and thereafter counts as innocent—a text that can be deceptive, but
does not mean what he says it does: (10) after the Lord had been baptized
by John he told his disciples, “I have a baptism to be baptized with, and
why do I wish it if I have already accomplished it?”18 And again, “I have
a cup to drink, and why do I wish to if I am going to fi ll it?”19 And so he
held that several baptisms may be administered
At the very beginning he excised everything Luke had originally
composed—his “inasmuch as many have taken in hand,” and so forth, and
the material about Elizabeth and the angel’s announcement to Mary the
Virgin; about John and Zacharias and the birth at Bethlehem; the genealogy
and the story of the baptism. (5). All this he cut out and turned his back
on, and made this the beginning of the Gospel, “In the fi fteenth year of
Tiberius Caesar,” and so on.
11,6 He starts from there then and yet, again, does not go on in order.
He falsifi es some things, as I said, he adds others helter-skelter, not going
straight on but disingenuously wandering all over the material
C'est ca.
That's not very different from the NT really:

Chapter 2 The Holy Spirit at Pentecost
38 And Peter says to them, “Repent and be baptized , every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Chapter 8 Saul Persecutes the Church
15 who having come down, prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit.
16 For He was not yet fallen upon any of them, but they had only been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus
Chapter 10 Cornelius Sends for Peter
47 “Is anyone able to withhold the water to baptize these who have received the Holy Spirit, just as we also have?” 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to remain some days.
Chapter 19 The Holy Spirit Received at Ephesus
3 And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” And they said, “Into the baptism of John.”
4 Then Paul said, “John baptized a baptism of repentance, telling the people that they should believe in the One coming after him, that is, in Jesus.”
5 And having heard, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And of Paul having laid the hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they were speaking in tongues and prophesying.

BOOK OF Romans
Chapter 6 Dead to Sin, Alive to God
3 Or are you unaware that as many as have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?

BOOK OF 1 Corinthians
Chapter 10 Warnings from Israel's Past
2 And all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea,

BOOK OF Galatians
Chapter 3 Faith and Belief
27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Just a sub selection there, all occurrences of baptism and bapti- can be found in the Commentary, pages 399-407

How many different ways of being baptised there?
Sorry, I lost count
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