An alternative view of 'Herod'

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An alternative view of 'Herod'

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Beside 'Herod' being the name of several 'kings' of the Jews —


Herod the Great
  • a son of Antipater of Idumaea, appointed king of Judaea in by the Roman senate at the suggestion of Antony and with the consent of Octavian. He destroyed the entire royal family of the Hasmonaeans, including kill even his dearly beloved wife Mariamne of the Hasmonaean line and the two sons she had borne him, & put to death many Jews who opposed his government
Herod Antipas
  • son of Herod the Great and Malthace, a Samaritan woman. Appointed by the Romans tetrach of Galilee and Peraea after the death of his father. His first wife was a daughter of Aretas, king of Arabia; but he subsequently repudiated her and took to himself Herodias, the wife of his brother Herod; consequently Aretas, his father-in-law, made war against him and conquered him. He is said to have cast John the Baptist into prison because John had rebuked him for this unlawful connection and, afterward, at the instigation of Herodias, he ordered him to be beheaded.
Herod Agrippa I
  • A grandson of Herod the Great: son of Aristobulus and Berenice. Eventually gained the favor of the emperors Caligula and Claudius, obtaining the government of all Palestine, with the title of king. He died at Caesarea, A.D. 44, at the age of 54, in the seventh (or 4th, reckoning from the extension of his dominions by Claudius) year of his reign (Josephus, Antiquities 17, 1, 2; 18, 6; 19, 4, 5; 6, 1; 7, 3; B.J. 2, 11, 6).
  • Called Agrippa by Josephus. Said to be the Herod in Luke-Acts. Ordered James the apostle, son of Zebedee, to be slain; and Peter to be cast into prison: Acts 12:1, 6, 11, 19-21.
Herod Agrippa II
  • son of the preceding. A youth of seventeen when his father died. In 48 AD/CE he received from Claudius Caesar the government of Chalcis, with the right of appointing the Jewish high priests, together with the care and oversight of the temple at Jerusalem. Four years later Claudius took from him Chalcis and gave him instead a larger dominion, viz. Batanaea, Trachonitis, and Gaulanitis, with the title of king. To these regions Nero, in 53 AD/CE, added Tiberias and Tarichaeae and the Peraean Julias, with fourteen neighboring villages; cf. Josephus, Antiquities 19, 9, 1f; 20, 1, 3; 5, 2; 7, 1; 8, 4; B.J. 2, 12, 1 and 8.
  • In the Jewish war, although he strove in vain to restrain the fury of the seditious and bellicose populace, he did not desert the Roman side. After the fall of Jerusalem, he was vested with praetorian rank and kept the kingdom entire until his death, which took place in the third year of the emperor Trajan (the 73rd of his life, and 52nd of his reign).
  • Mentioned in Acts 25:13, 22-26; Acts 26:1f.
slightly modified from https://biblehub.com/greek/2264.htm


— the word or versions of it may have more nebulous meanings than just being a name:


Héródés: perhaps "son of a hero," Herod, the name of several kings of the Jews

Original Word: Ἡρῴδης, ου, ὁ

Word Origin
perhaps from hérós (hero) and a patronymic suffix

Definition
perhaps "son of a hero"


Thayer's Greek Lexicon

STRONGS NT 2264: Ἡρῴδης

Ἡρῴδης, Ἡρῴδου, ὁ (equivalent to ἡρωιδης, sprung from a hero: hence, the Etym. Magn., pp. 165, 43; 437, 56 directs it to be written Ἡρῴδης (so WH), as it is found also in certain inscriptions (cf. Lipsius, Gram. Unters., p. 9; WH. Introductory § 410; Tdf. Proleg. 109; Pape, Eigennamen, under the word)). Herod, the name of a royal family that flourished among the Jews in the time of Jesus and the apostles. In the N.T. are mentioned | [see above]


Strong's Exhaustive Concordance

Herod.
Compound of heros (a "hero") and eidos; heroic; Herod, the name of four Jewish kings

...see GREEK eidos


  • eidos: visible form, shape, appearance, kind

    Original Word: εἶδος, ους, τό
    Definition: appearance, fashion, shape, sight
    Usage: visible form, shape, appearance, outward show, kind, species, class.

    https://biblehub.com/greek/1491.htm


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MrMacSon wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:42 pm

...see GREEK eidos


  • eidos: visible form, shape, appearance, kind

    Original Word: εἶδος, ους, τό
    Definition: appearance, fashion, shape, sight
    Usage: visible form, shape, appearance, outward show, kind, species, class.

    https://biblehub.com/greek/1491.htm



continued:


Thayer's Greek Lexicon

STRONGS NT 1491: εἶδος

εἶδος, εἴδους, τό (ἘΙΔΩ), in the Septuagint chiefly for מַרְאֶה and תֹּאַר; properly, that which strikes the eye, which is exposed to view;
  1. the external appearance, form, figure, shape, (so from Homer down) ...
    .
  2. form, kind: ἀπό παντός εἴδους πονηροῦ ἀπέχεσθε, ie. from every kind of evil or wrong, 1 Thessalonians 5:22 (cf. πονηρός, under the end); (Josephus, Antiquities 10, 3, 1 πᾶν εἶδος πονηρίας. The Greeks, especially Plato, oppose τό εἶδος to τό γένος, as the Latin does species to genus, cf. Schmidt, chapter 182, 2)

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance

appearance, fashion, shape, sight.

From eido; a view, ie. Form (literally or figuratively) -- appearance, fashion, shape, sight.

... see GREEK eido

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MrMacSon wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:01 pm

{ eidos : εἶδος, εἴδους }


Strong's Exhaustive Concordance

appearance, fashion, shape, sight.


From eido; a view, ie. Form (literally or figuratively) -- appearance, fashion, shape, sight.

... see GREEK eido

https://biblehub.com/greek/1491.htm




  • 1492 eidó

    Strong's Concordance

    eidó: be aware, behold, consider, perceive

    Original Word: οἶδα
    Part of Speech: Verb

    eídō (oida) – properly, to see with physical eyes (cf. Ro 1:11), as it naturally bridges to the metaphorical sense: perceiving ("mentally seeing"). This is akin to the expressions: "I see what You mean"; "I see what you are saying."

    eídō ("seeing that becomes knowing") then is a gateway to grasp spiritual truth (reality) from a physical plane. 1492 (eídō) then is physical seeing (sight) which should be the constant bridge to mental and spiritual seeing (comprehension).

    https://biblehub.com/greek/1492.htm


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Also


Ἡρώδης (Hērṓdēs)

Etymology

From Ἥρᾱ (Hḗrā, “Hera”) +‎ ᾠδή (ōidḗ, “ode”).

From <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%A ... E%B7%CF%82>




Ἡρώδης (Hērṓdēs)

Alternative form of Ἡρῴδης (Hērṓidēs)

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%A ... E%B7%CF%82


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Romans 16:11a

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.Ἀσπάσασθε .Ἡρῳδίωνα* τὸν .συγγενῆ .μου .
.
..Aspasasthe ....Hērōdiōna ...ton ...syngenē ...mou
.,,.Greet ........Herodian ...the ..kinsman ..of me

* Accusative Masculine Singular
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MrMacSon wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:44 pm Romans 16:11a

.
.Ἀσπάσασθε .Ἡρῳδίωνα* τὸν .συγγενῆ .μου .
.
..Aspasasthe ....Hērōdiōna ...ton ...syngenē ...mou
.,,.Greet ........Herodian ...the ..kinsman ..of me

* Accusative Masculine Singular

Romans 16:11 in full


. Greet/Salute Herodian the kinsman of me. Greet them that be of the household of Narcissus, which/who are in the Lord.


Most of the commentaries about this verse are about Narcissus, believed to be a notable and even powerful freedman of the emperor Claudius. See https://biblehub.com/commentaries/romans/16-11.htm
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