Honorius and Theodosius forbade the crucifixion of Haman

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Honorius and Theodosius forbade the crucifixion of Haman

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I am reading from a book this claim:

The Jews of Syria, during the festival of Purim, used to burn the image of Haman on a cross. Honorius and Theodosius forbade it, because they saw it as a parody of Christian worship

Where is evidence of this?

If true, this Jewish parody of the Christian cross would be not so far from the real origin of the cross.
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Re: Honorius and Theodosius forbade the crucifixion of Haman

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Old news. Every (educated) Jew knows this.
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Re: Honorius and Theodosius forbade the crucifixion of Haman

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Giuseppe wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:47 am I am reading from a book this claim:

The Jews of Syria, during the festival of Purim, used to burn the image of Haman on a cross. Honorius and Theodosius forbade it, because they saw it as a parody of Christian worship

Where is evidence of this?

If true, this Jewish parody of the Christian cross would be not so far from the real origin of the cross.
See The Rites of Purim

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Re: Honorius and Theodosius forbade the crucifixion of Haman

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No, there is no connection as the Christian cross derives from Platonic idealist philosophy, not from some Jewish voodoo ritual.
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schillingklaus wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:06 am No, there is no connection as the Christian cross derives from Platonic idealist philosophy, not from some Jewish voodoo ritual.
THe Platonic idealist philosophy insists on the fate of the Righteous one, but the Righteousness is a more a Judaizing attribute than a Gnostic one.

So Platon's Just would have been used more by Judaizers than by anti-demiurgists.

What there is of anti-demiurgism in the use of Platon's Just, is the idea that the Platonic demiurge created the world by using a cosmic cross. The anti-demiurgists would have interpreted: the evil demiurge created the world by crucifying the Son of Father.

Even so, what is not explained is the use of Deuteronomy's cursing of the crucified one. If the crucified is cursed by god, then the crucifixion is 100% expected for the being who had to carry the sins of the entire community: the Lamb.

Even more so if the blood of the Lamb, signed on the door, allowed to save the israelites in Egypt from the destructive work of the Angel of Lord, identified already in the OT implicitly with Joshua/Jesus.
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Theodosius also banned (or one of these laws banned) Jews from using anything other than the LXX. No Aquila. Worth noting. The government was legislating orthodoxy by this period. Also subordinated Jews and Samaritans as second or third class citizens.
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