Shakespeare wasn’t Shakespeare

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StephenGoranson
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Re: Shakespeare wasn’t Shakespeare

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Winkler is no dummy, yes. She is quite articulate.
But by claiming "Shakespeare" was a woman, though by not specifying a particular woman, she may weaken her case, because if she thinks Shakespeare has little evidence, her unspecified replacement candidates have even less.
Was Ben Jonson lying about knowing Shakespeare?
Winkler agrees he was a well-off landowner--from acting?
If one supposes a group wrote Shakespeare, do those proponents also claim no one of them told, ever?
Shall we say Albert Einstein was not Einstein because his greatest articles were written (1905, annus mirabilis) when he was a patent clerk? Hmm "committed skeptic"?
Why didn't Shakespeare attend Oxford or Cambridge? Maybe because his family had been Catholic?
Why would Henry James doubt Shakespeare? Maybe because privileged James was less brilliant than Shakespeare?
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Re: Shakespeare wasn’t Shakespeare

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Mary Sydney is the primary female candidate. But a book title is not a “claim.” Read the book or don’t, I’m not here to debate.

Lewis Lapham has a good podcast interview with her at “the world in time.”
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Leucius Charinus
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Re: Shakespeare wasn’t Shakespeare

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StephenGoranson wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:41 am But by claiming "Shakespeare" was a woman, though by not specifying a particular woman, she may weaken her case...

the book isn't
actually about arguing that it was a
woman or was Oxford or Marlow it's and
other heresies let's look at these
different theories I mean if it comes
down on any side it comes down on the
side of skepticism and uncertainty and
having a little bit of humility actually
because a lot of this is about human
arrogance and hubris and our our desire
to assert that we know things

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Re: Shakespeare wasn’t Shakespeare

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I think Shakespeare did write Shakespeare.
I think Eusebius did not write Irenaeus and Origen and ........
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Re: Shakespeare wasn’t Shakespeare

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Irish1975 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:09 pm Mary Sydney is the primary female candidate. But a book title is not a “claim.” Read the book or don’t, I’m not here to debate.

Lewis Lapham has a good podcast interview with her at “the world in time.”
Antonie a play by Mary Sydney is extant.
It is a free translation rather than an original work, but it doesn't feel very Shakespearean.

Andrew Criddle
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