outhouse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:21 pm
neilgodfrey wrote:outhouse wrote:You will never get a filthy muslim to communicate honestly about islam, they are all brainwashed since birth to avoid any and all criticism. Meaning they are forced to refuse reality here.
Would this comment be tolerated by anyone here if outhouse used the word "jew" instead of "muslim"?
Most jews can discuss real history, muslims cannot.
Now orthodox jews are just as crappy as muslims, but not normal jews.
jews are not embarrassing humanity daily in the news
To understand this blithering nonsense, one needs to understand the cognitive biases evinced here. Putting aside outhouse's demonstrated inability to process "real history", let's evaluate what was said...
outhouse wrote:Most jews can discuss real history, muslims cannot.
outhouse makes a concession for Jews, "most Jews", a concession he is not prepared to make for Muslims. He goes on to explain that concession:
outhouse wrote:Now orthodox jews are just as crappy as muslims, but not normal jews.
From this statement one links "normal Jews" to the "most Jews" of the previous statement. "Orthodox Jews" are those excluded by "most Jews" and "normal Jews". The implication from these two statements is that Muslims as a whole, "normal" Muslims, are on a par with "orthodox Jews" and thus are all to be seen as of little worth. This is pure racism.
jews are not embarrassing humanity daily in the news
Beside the fact that the media participates in fostering the sort of vile opinions outhouse demonstrates here in the name of newsworthiness and through complicity in a cultural discourse that denigrates Muslims due to the actions of a minute proportion of people who espouse Islam, the media does not report facts such as the daily acts of repression against Muslims in Israel by some Israeli Jews, ranging from incarceration or personal injury to murder. There is no indication that this is done by "orthodox Jews". But it is just as wrong of me to waste time on Israeli racial crimes against Muslims. The vast majority of Jews get on with living as do most Muslims.
outhouse has chosen to make statements against all Muslims based on the actions of very few. He is an armchair racist, ignorant of the real world and happy to be manipulated by the television which makes money manipulating him. He doesn't stop to think of all those elected officials in our administrative structures. He shuts his eyes to Muslim innovators in western society in technology, Muslim business people, Muslims in the army, Muslims teaching in ordinary schools, Muslim scholars participating at the forefront of academia, Muslim shopkeepers, Muslims leading ordinary lives. outhouse lumps all Muslims together and brands them by the actions of less than 0.0001% of people who call themselves Muslims.
I find outhouse's comments offensive and should not be left unanswered. I can understand Neil Godfrey's reaction to his comments, but Neil's comment got removed to elsewhere, as I think outhouse's should have been. It is stupid nonsense that functionally attacks a group of people not for what they have done, but for who they are. Shameful.
The promotion of such pathetic views that lead to racial discrimination only prompts a small number of Muslims into radicalization. Vociferous racism is actually self-defeating, promoting what is to be discouraged by kneejerk reactionism.