having children for lunch

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theterminator
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having children for lunch

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i found the following quote
Yahweh frequently punished children for the sins of their
parents, killing the firstborn sons of Egypt for one man’s (Pharaoh’s)
sin, killing the children in the flood for their parents’ general
wickedness, the Canaanite children for the sins of their parents,
and even the children of Israel for the sins of their parents,
including punishing parents by forcing them to eat their own
children!
11 So let’s not pretend that this idea of punishing children
for the sins of their parents is foreign to the Bible!
which verse in the bible says that yhwh forced the hebrews to eat their own children?
this is an interesting quote.
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You're obviously trying to outdo yourself in the sick posts department.

I think that the usual theme was that someone's children might die from disease and/or starvation as a punishment and then, to make it worse, the parents would be in such bad shape that they'd wind up eating them - adding insult to injury as it were.

Cannibalism in the Bible - http://www.rationalchristianity.net/cannibal.html
And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall devour one another's flesh -- because of the desperate straits to which they will be reduced by their enemies, who seek their life." (Jer 19:9 TNK)
The rational Christianity guys don't mention this one (because there is no cannibalism probably) but it is an odd contrast.
They have built shrines to Baal, to put their children to the fire as burnt offerings to Baal -- which I never commanded, never decreed, and which never came to My mind. (Jer 19:5 TNK)
They give 2 Kings 6:26-29 but 25 is worth looking at too.
There was a great famine in Samaria, and the siege continued until a donkey's head sold for eighty shekels of silver and a quarter of a kab of doves' dung for five shekels. 26 Once, when the king of Israel was walking on the city wall, a woman cried out to him: "Help me, Your Majesty!" 27 "Don't ask me," he replied. "Let the LORD help you! Where could I get help for you, from the threshing floor or from the winepress? 28 But what troubles you?" the king asked her. The woman answered, "That woman said to me, 'Give up your son and we will eat him today; and tomorrow we'll eat my son.' 29 So we cooked my son and we ate him. The next day I said to her, 'Give up your son and let's eat him'; but she hid her son."
(2Ki 6:25-29 TNK)
I wonder if that is a little joke about the Solomon baby story.
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theterminator wrote:i found the following quote
Yahweh frequently punished children for the sins of their
parents, killing the firstborn sons of Egypt for one man’s (Pharaoh’s)
sin, killing the children in the flood for their parents’ general
wickedness, the Canaanite children for the sins of their parents,
and even the children of Israel for the sins of their parents,
including punishing parents by forcing them to eat their own
children!
11 So let’s not pretend that this idea of punishing children
for the sins of their parents is foreign to the Bible!
which verse in the bible says that yhwh forced the hebrews to eat their own children?
this is an interesting quote.
I think the original author was employing hyperbole, but the referent is most likely Josephus' story of the mother who devoured her baby during the siege of Jerusalem by Titus. You really should always say who the author is and what work he wrote it in when offering quotes, so we can put it all into context.

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quote came from thom starks response to paul copan.
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theterminator wrote:quote came from thom starks response to paul copan.
Than THEY should be doing this. It is just not as valuable as evidence when it is ripped from its original context.
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