Who or What is the God 'On' (Ων, ὄν)?

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Who or What is the God 'On' (Ων, ὄν)?

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I wondered about this, when I first carefully noted the Therapeutae (who I suppose 'Sethians') worshipped 'Being', a word that gets awfully philosophical & quick! ("On" is impossible to search here, obviously.)

Who is this god, exactly? (I am vaguely familiar with the "I AM" speculations of theosophists.) Is this explanation correct? From Scriptural Research Institute, Dodeka: Book of the Prophets [2021], p.101:
The Septuagint continues the usage of the name On, introduced in Exodus, implying this was the name of a Hebrew or Canaanite god. The Semitic god with the most phonetically similar name is An (Anu), the Mesopotamian (Akkadian, the Mesopotamian (Akkadian, Babylonian, Assyrian) Sky-father deity. An is not documented in Canaan unless he was the god of On/Aven. The name On/Aven is believed to be the name of a Canaanite god, like most of the other places named after the ancient temples, such as Beth-Horon and Beth-Shemesh, however, the god On/Aven is currently unknown from the archaeological record, so the association of An and On/Aven cannot be confirmed.

I've actually mentioned it before, but (honestly) I'd never wondered about the Origin of this God-Name or God-Concept. I presumed it was an Alexandrian/Egyptian philosophical abstraction -- Not a God's Name. Is 'Horon' the 'Son of On'??? Who is the Wife of 'On'?
billd89 wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 5:00 pm Recall that Plutarch studied under Ammonius (c.66 AD), who had learned Alexandrian philosophy from yet older Neopythagorean teachers in Philo's day c.25 AD, (Link):
Ammonius taught that God is transcendent, above Time or Motion, but always Being. He is not composite but pure and indestructible. This Being (τὸ ὄν) is also One (τὸ ἕν).77 The identification of God as τὸ ἕν, amongst other things, positions Ammonius within the Neopythagorean tradition.78

On Philo's Jewish interpretation of 'The Being', see esp. De Vita Comtemplativa 2; cf. De Praemiis et Poenis 40, Quaestiones in Exodum 2.68; also τὸ ὄν and the ὁ ὤν (he who is [Exod 3:14]) with the τὸ ὄν of Platonism; e.g., Leg. 1.99; Det. 160 [cf. Exod 3:14]; Post. 21, 175; Deus. 11, 52, 55, 69, 108, 109; Plant. 21, 22; Ebr. 107, 108; Conf. 95; Migr. 169; Her. 95, 229; Mut. 11, 27; Mos. 2.161; Spec. 1.270, 313, 344,345; Virt. 34, 215; Praem. 27, 56; Prob. 43; QG 1.100; QE 2.47.
billd89 wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:48 pmAs stated here unequivocally, 'Being' is the 'God' that the Pythagorean Therapeutae worship. However, we need to remember that elsewhere Philo indicates other formulations, definite examples of 3-fold or 4-fold iterations of 'God'. This is illustrative of the Philonic context, a caution against gross oversimplification or blatant misunderstanding.

DVC 2: ἐπαιδεύθησαν θεραπεύειν #1: τὸ ὄν, ὃ καὶ #3: ἀγαθοῦ κρεῖττόν ἐστι καὶ #4 ἑνὸς εἰλικρινέστερον καὶ #2 μονάδος ἀρχεγονώτερον.

DVC 2: they are raised to worship 'Being' {#1: Προαρχή, Μονότης = Foresource, Monotes}, superior to 'The Good' {#3 Noetic Paradigm} and purer than 'The Unity' {#4 Ἑνότης The Henad: The All}, and primordial to 'The Monad' {#2 All-Source, One God}

The Four-fold Hypostases of 'God':
1. Primordial Being: Unknown/Unbegotten Absolute Being
2. Monad (Logos): First Son, Creator, Author
3. Divine Reality: Noetic Paradigm of Creation
4. Henad: Cosmic Reality (Creation: 'Heaven and Earth')
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In classical Greek, ειμι can be used as a substantive verb. LSJ. of persons, exist, “οὐκ ἔσθ᾽ οὗτος ἀνήρ, οὐδ᾽ ἔσσεται” Od.16.437. In fact in Homer, the substantive ειμι is usually in the future tense, i.e. ἔσσεται, ἔσσομαι and in Biblical Hebrew אהיה means "I will be".
cf. Genesis 31:3 אהיה עמך "I will be with thee" Gk. ἔσομαι μετὰ σοῦ.

There is no "Be" verbs in the present tense in Biblical Hebrew, so where you find "I am" in Old Testament, the Hebrew is just the pronoun אני "I".
cf. Genesis 35:11 ויאמר לו אלהים אני אל שדי "God said to him, i (am) Zeus".
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Is this quoted statement correct in its assumptions?
The Septuagint continues the usage of the name On ...implying this was the name of a Hebrew or Canaanite god. ... The name On is believed to be the name of a Canaanite god ... however, the god On/Aven is currently unknown from the archaeological record, so the association of An and On/Aven cannot be confirmed.

Who or What is the God 'On' (Ων, ὄν)? Who is this god, exactly?

And is 'Horon' the 'Son of On' (associated with Horus!!! Hor-On)??? Who is the Wife of 'On'?
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ὄν is the present participle of the verb εἰμί
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You probably confusing ὄν with און i.e. Genesis 41:50 כהן און "Priest of On" which is διάκονος Ζανός "Priest of Zeus" cf. Διόσπολις (αρχαία πόλη της Αιγύπτου)
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Horon is written as a dual, Horonaim (חרנים) and Jeremiah 48:34 associates it with Zoar (צער) which means ἀγορά which suggests Horonaim (חרנים) means ἀγοραῖν "of two assemblies" i.e a city ruled by two assemblies, probably a people's assembly and a council of chiefs.
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Also the verb ὂν is neuter thus doesn't specify a gender, but in LXX Exodus 3:14 it is ὢν (masculine).
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Now, back to this ...
billd89 wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:19 pm Is this quoted statement correct in its assumptions?
The Septuagint continues the usage of the name On ...implying this was the name of a Hebrew or Canaanite god. ... The name On is believed to be the name of a Canaanite god ... however, the god On/Aven is currently unknown from the archaeological record, so the association of An and On/Aven cannot be confirmed.

Who or What is the God 'On' (Ων, ὄν)? Who is this god, exactly?

And is 'Horon' the 'Son of On' (associated with Horus!!! Hor-On)??? Who is the Wife of 'On'?
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