Note: relatively recent term: sealioning

[StephenGoranson]

Apparently starting with:
http://wondermark.com/1k62/
and subsequently discussed.

[StephenGoranson]

I merely mentioned a term. If anyone notices the shoe fits, or not, ...

[ABuddhist]

I also note that accusing one's opponents of sealioning in order to shut down rational requests for evidence supporting one's claims has been recognized as a problem.

"In a 2016 study published in First Monday focusing on users of the Gamergate subreddit /r/KotakuInAction, participants were surveyed about what they believed constituted "harassment". Participants were quoted stating that "expressions of sincere disagreement" were considered harassment by opponents of the forum and that the term "Sealioning" was used to silence legitimate requests for proof.""

Citation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning, citing Jhaver, Shagun; Chan, Larry; Bruckman, Amy (5 February 2018). "The view from the other side: The border between controversial speech and harassment on Kotaku in Action". First Monday. 23 (2). arXiv:1712.05851. doi:10.5210/fm.v23i2.8232. S2CID 3653593.

[billd89]

[StephenGoranson]

ABuddhist wrote on Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:07 pm in Re: Plato's Timaeus... thread:

"I am polite enough to thank people for responding to my requests, assume good faith from all posters not karavan here, and sometimes defend posters from the accusations which other posters give against them, but then as a Buddhist I am not typical of the posters here."

Putting aside the question whether there are Buddhist posters or readers here, I do wonder whether that writer is typical of Buddhists.

[ABuddhist]

ABuddhist wrote on Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:07 pm in Re: Plato's Timaeus... thread:

"I am polite enough to thank people for responding to my requests, assume good faith from all posters not karavan here, and sometimes defend posters from the accusations which other posters give against them, but then as a Buddhist I am not typical of the posters here."

Putting aside the question whether there are Buddhist posters or readers here, I do wonder whether that writer is typical of Buddhists.

I am not typical of Buddhists in many ways, but the same applies to just about every sub-category of humanity I am in. Such is what happens when one is, as I am, on the autistic spectrum, loving history, religion, etc., and afflicted with severe congenital disabilities which mean that I cannot easily hear and have never been able to walk in this life.

Why, I have never been able to formally take refuge in a ceremony, nor can I follow the 8 precepts because my bed must be at least 18 inches off the ground.

I apologize, StephenGoranson, for my initial, now deleted response to you on this thread, which did not cite an academic paper but instead was overly literalistic in interpreting the comic which you posted.

I also thank you for introducing to me the term sea-lioning, which I had never heard of before.

[ABuddhist]

ABuddhist wrote on Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:07 pm in Re: Plato's Timaeus... thread:

"I am polite enough to thank people for responding to my requests, assume good faith from all posters not karavan here, and sometimes defend posters from the accusations which other posters give against them, but then as a Buddhist I am not typical of the posters here."

Putting aside the question whether there are Buddhist posters or readers here, I do wonder whether that writer is typical of Buddhists.

Do you wonder the same about Christian, Jewish, atheistical, Muslim, or Hindu writers whom you disagree with and (perhaps?) think to be poorly behaved, StephenGoranson?

For my part, I dislike generalizing from single individuals towards all members of a group to whom the individual belongs. Such is stereotypical thinking which ignores the diversity of human experiences and beliefs and behaviours.

But then, I am rather eccentric in, among other ways, my handling of stereotypes. I do not like to refer to "Eastern religions" or "Eastern philosophy", both because the term is too eurocentric and because it unfairly homogenizes a wide range of religious and philosophical positions ranging from the materialistic atheism of the Indian Cārvākas to the rational, deeply theistic Chinese Mohism to the complicated and distorted-by-nationalism-and-imperial-patronage Japanese Shinto.

[John T]

Apparently starting with:
http://wondermark.com/1k62/
and subsequently discussed.

Thank you for the good laugh and the proper term for what I recently experienced on this forum: Seal Lioning. I was guessing 'trolling' but now I know better.

Got to use the right jargon.
Sea Lioning.
Got it!

[billd89]

Speaking of, there's one that needs to be euthanised.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... er-norway/