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Re: How many Christs are there?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:42 am
by cienfuegos
perseusomega9 wrote:cienfuegos wrote:
I think there are pre-Christian Christs.
people?: Adam, Enoch, Elijah, Joseph, Joshua, Melchizedek, Seth
angels?: Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel, Angel of Yahweh, Metatron
Sophia/Wisdom?
"Who do men say I am?"
Sure,those all would qualify, I think. The Logos (Philo) I would add. The suffering servant (Isaiah), the righteous son of God (Wisdom of Solomon), Yesseus, Mazareus, Yessedekeus, the Living Water (Apoc of Adam), etc.
Re: How many Christs are there?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:44 am
by perseusomega9
cienfuegos wrote:perseusomega9 wrote:cienfuegos wrote:
I think there are pre-Christian Christs.
people?: Adam, Enoch, Elijah, Joseph, Joshua, Melchizedek, Seth
angels?: Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel, Angel of Yahweh, Metatron
Sophia/Wisdom?
"Who do men say I am?"
Sure,those all would qualify, I think. The Logos (Philo) I would add. The suffering servant (Isaiah), the righteous son of God (Wisdom of Solomon), Yesseus, Mazareus, Yessedekeus, the Living Water (Apoc of Adam), etc.
They are Legion!
Re: How many Christs are there?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:52 am
by Clive
Who do men say I am?
What is your name?
Name above all names?
Re: How many Christs are there?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:39 am
by outhouse
Clive wrote:There seems to be an assumption, possibly from biology, that there is a last common ancestor Christ, we argue here is it "mythical" or "historical".
But what if we are using unconsciously the wrong biological model?
It is now accepted there was - and is - a huge bacterial world where horizontal gene transfer is the reality. Mix and match.
So why not for example ask how many different Christs are there in the New Testament? What are their common points and differences?
And instead of attempting to ask how do they track back to a historical Jesus or a Cosmic Christ, ask what bits are they made from? Which part bins were used to put together particular Christs? The Land Rover Discovery Christ, the Ford Christ, the Emperor Christ?
You can use your imagination and make as many as you please.
Its easy to take the word out of context and pervert it to no end.
Re: How many Christs are there?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:43 am
by Clive
What, though, if there are actually many christs?
Re: How many Christs are there?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:50 am
by outhouse
Clive wrote:What, though, if there are actually many christs?
Depends on how bad you want to pervert "the anointed one"
Re: How many Christs are there?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:04 pm
by MrMacSon
cienfuegos wrote:
I think there are pre-Christian Christs.
I agree! The Christian Christ is likely a continuation of a tradition.
and there are likely to be Christs concurrent to (or 'parallel to') the Christian Christ.
Re: How many Christs are there?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:28 pm
by outhouse
MrMacSon wrote: The Christian Christ is likely a continuation of a tradition.
.
credible sources please.
Re: How many Christs are there?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:55 pm
by MrMacSon
outhouse wrote:MrMacSon wrote: The Christian Christ is likely a continuation of a tradition.
credible sources please.
Sure.
See
http://www.mountainman.com.au/essenes/c ... ristos.htm
and it was applied
to manumitted slaves
add: this fits with
cienfuegos's assertion (in another thread) that
There is evidence that some Jews began referring to a suffering servant figure in the past tense (such as in the Wisdom of Solomon) and possibly pre-Christian versions of the Ascension of Isaiah.
.
Re: How many Christs are there?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:57 pm
by outhouse
credible sources please.