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The Word According To GMarp. What is the GMark's Jesus' Message?
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:21 pm
by JoeWallack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmRPh1xwab8
JW:
In the beginning:
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4 John came, who baptized in the wilderness and preached the baptism of repentance unto remission of sins.
5 And there went out unto him all the country of Judaea, and all they of Jerusalem; And they were baptized of him in the river Jordan, confessing their sins.
6 And John was clothed with camel`s hair, and [had] a leathern girdle about his loins, and did eat locusts and wild honey.
7 And he preached, saying, There cometh after me he that is mightier than I, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.
8 I baptized you in water; But he shall baptize you in the Holy Spirit.
9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in the Jordan.
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1. I think original GMark started with 1:4. A direct claim of prophecy fulfillment is kind of the opposite of whatever the style of GMark is.
2. No statement by Jesus so far but I'm assuming that the other characters in GMark are generally correctly describing Jesus in some sense although often it is an ironic one.
3. "baptize you in the Holy Spirit" is unclear as to meaning, especially at this point in the narrative (with no context yet). Presumably just indicating that whatever Jesus' message is, it is largely spiritual.
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Joseph
WOMAN, n.
An animal usually living in the vicinity of Man, and having a
rudimentary susceptibility to domestication. It is credited by
many of the elder zoologists with a certain vestigial docility
acquired in a former state of seclusion, but naturalists of the
postsusananthony period, having no knowledge of the seclusion,
deny the virtue and declare that such as creation's dawn beheld,
it roareth now. The species is the most widely distributed of all
beasts of prey, infesting all habitable parts of the globe, from
Greenland's spicy mountains to India's moral strand. The popular
name (wolfman) is incorrect, for the creature is of the cat kind.
The woman is lithe and graceful in its movement, especially the
American variety (felis pugnans), is omnivorous and can be
taught not to talk.
The New Porphyry
Bad Romans
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:06 am
by JoeWallack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrO4YZeyl0I
JW:
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9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in the Jordan.
10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens rent asunder, and the Spirit as a dove descending upon him:
11 And a voice came out of the heavens, Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased.
12 And straightway the Spirit driveth him forth into the wilderness.
13 And he was in the wilderness forty days tempted of Satan; And he was with the wild beasts; And the angels ministered unto him.
14 Now after John was delivered up, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God,
15 and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe in the gospel.
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1. "Preaching the gospel of God". Not really defined here but matches to what the only known significant Christian author before "Mark" said. Paul generally said it meant believing that Jesus was God's son and was sacrificed for your sins but was resurrected in a spiritual sense.
2. "The kingdom of God is at hand." Presumably meaning that whatever it means will/could happen in the audience's lifetime. "God's kingdom" implies that instead of a human king there will be a spiritual king. Again Paul.
3. "Repent". Presumably means repent based on the author's interpretation of what is considered sin in The Jewish Bible. Paul.
4. "Believe in the gospel". Added on to what precedes so presumably has its own definition. Strange/bizarre/macabre that a narrative, literally claiming that this is the difference between life and death, has its Jesus preaching salvation but not defining it. This is what you would see in a letter, like I dunno, Paul's. You start by stating a conclusion/objective and then use the letter to justify/convince. This is not a simple straightaway narrative. If there was an HJ he would not have done this. This "narrative" is for the reader, just like Paul's letters.
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1. The most important event of your life/death will happen in your lifetime.
2. Repent (to be defined).
3. Believe in "The Gospel" (to be defined)
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Joseph
ROMANCE, n. Fiction that owes no allegiance to the God of Things as They Are. In the novel the writer's thought is tethered to probability, as a domestic horse to the hitching-post, but in romance it ranges at will over the entire region of the imagination—free, lawless, immune to bit and rein. Your novelist is a poor creature, as Carlyle might say—a mere reporter. He may invent his characters and plot, but he must not imagine anything taking place that might not occur, albeit his entire narrative is candidly a lie. Why he imposes this hard condition on himself, and "drags at each remove a lengthening chain" of his own forging he can explain in ten thick volumes without illuminating by so much as a candle's ray the black profound of his own ignorance of the matter. There are great novels, for great writers have "laid waste their powers" to write them, but it remains true that far and away the most fascinating fiction that we have is "The Thousand and One Nights."
The New Porphyry
Christ Candy
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:25 pm
by JoeWallack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jORFcH5uAjM
JW:
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9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in the Jordan.
10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens rent asunder, and the Spirit as a dove descending upon him:
11 And a voice came out of the heavens, Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased.
12 And straightway the Spirit driveth him forth into the wilderness.
13 And he was in the wilderness forty days tempted of Satan; And he was with the wild beasts; And the angels ministered unto him.
14 Now after John was delivered up, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God,
15 and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe in the gospel.
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1. "Preaching the gospel of God". Not really defined here but matches to what the only known significant Christian author before "Mark" said. Paul generally said it meant believing that Jesus was God's son and was sacrificed for your sins but was resurrected in a spiritual sense.
2. "The kingdom of God is at hand." Presumably meaning that whatever it means will/could happen in the audience's lifetime. "God's kingdom" implies that instead of a human king there will be a spiritual king. Again Paul.
3. "Repent". Presumably means repent based on the author's interpretation of what is considered sin in The Jewish Bible. Paul.
4. "Believe in the gospel". Added on to what precedes so presumably has its own definition. Strange/bizarre/macabre that a narrative, literally claiming that this is the difference between life and death, has its Jesus preaching salvation but not defining it. This is what you would see in a letter, like I dunno, Paul's. You start by stating a conclusion/objective and then use the letter to justify/convince. This is not a simple straightaway narrative. If there was an HJ he would not have done this. This "narrative" is for the reader, just like Paul's letters.
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1. The most important event of your life/death will happen in your lifetime.
2. Repent (to be defined).
3. Believe in "The Gospel" (to be defined)
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16 And passing along by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew the brother of Simon casting a net in the sea; for they were fishers.
17 And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.
18 And straightway they left the nets, and followed him.
19 And going on a little further, he saw James the [son] of Zebedee, and John his brother, who also were in the boat mending the nets.
20 And straightway he called them: and they left their father Zebedee in the boat with the hired servants, and went after him.
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1. Note that in GMark's diekatame universe of physical verses spiritual, at the start of Jesus' Mission, everything with The Disciples is physical. Physically walking, seeing, fishing. Talking, leaving, following.
2. Identification of James/John by the traditional "son of" but once they follow Jesus they "leave their father". Stylish contrast to the end where Salome is identified as mother of James/John.
3. Note especially that the disciples' following is physical as will be their following of men (as opposed to women). This will be contrasted with the spiritual following of non disciples in what follows (even women).
4. As always, note how subsequent Gospellers gradually undo and introduce spiritual following to the disciples. |
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Joseph
The New Porphyry
The Musaf Man
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:17 pm
by JoeWallack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXzlRoNtHU
JW:
| Verse | Commentary | Message |
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9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in the Jordan.
10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens rent asunder, and the Spirit as a dove descending upon him:
11 And a voice came out of the heavens, Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased.
12 And straightway the Spirit driveth him forth into the wilderness.
13 And he was in the wilderness forty days tempted of Satan; And he was with the wild beasts; And the angels ministered unto him.
14 Now after John was delivered up, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God,
15 and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe in the gospel.
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1. "Preaching the gospel of God". Not really defined here but matches to what the only known significant Christian author before "Mark" said. Paul generally said it meant believing that Jesus was God's son and was sacrificed for your sins but was resurrected in a spiritual sense.
2. "The kingdom of God is at hand." Presumably meaning that whatever it means will/could happen in the audience's lifetime. "God's kingdom" implies that instead of a human king there will be a spiritual king. Again Paul.
3. "Repent". Presumably means repent based on the author's interpretation of what is considered sin in The Jewish Bible. Paul.
4. "Believe in the gospel". Added on to what precedes so presumably has its own definition. Strange/bizarre/macabre that a narrative, literally claiming that this is the difference between life and death, has its Jesus preaching salvation but not defining it. This is what you would see in a letter, like I dunno, Paul's. You start by stating a conclusion/objective and then use the letter to justify/convince. This is not a simple straightaway narrative. If there was an HJ he would not have done this. This "narrative" is for the reader, just like Paul's letters.
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1. The most important event of your life/death will happen in your lifetime.
2. Repent (to be defined).
3. Believe in "The Gospel" (to be defined)
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21 And they go into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue and taught.
22 And they were astonished at his teaching: For he taught them as having authority, and not as the scribes.
23 And straightway there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out,
24 saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus thou Nazarene? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.
25 And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.
26 And the unclean spirit, tearing him and crying with a loud voice, came out of him.
27 And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What is this? a new teaching! with authority he commandeth even the unclean spirits, and they obey him.
28 And the report of him went out straightway everywhere into all the region of Galilee round about.
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1. So what did Jesus teach here? As previously mentioned the description of his previous preaching did not give much detail.
Anyway, the emphasis here is not on what he taught but on how he taught. With "authority". Think Paul.
2. It's bad enough that a synagogue is the home for the unclean but for Christ's sake this isn't just any synagogue that is sick and unclean, this is Peter's synagogue. We have trouble my friends, right here in Jordan city.
3. A nice little artistic touch you might have missed. The demons are questioning Jesus paralleled by the congregation questioning themselves.
4. And another parallel. The word about Jesus goes straight out to all of Galilee before Jesus goes straight out to all of Galilee. Note the
building of the contrast between the hearers of reports about Jesus and the Disciples. The disciples' relationship with Jesus was physical. Those who believed in Jesus based on what they had been told, had a spiritual relationship with Jesus.
5. Regarding Secret Mark, that would be an ironic style of "Mark" that the young man formerly known as "Rich" would be placed in the ultimate physical setting to have the ultimate spiritual relationship with Jesus.
6. So Jesus is already a hit in Galilee but at this point in the narrative no one (characters or readers) know much about his message (Paul!) |
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Joseph
The New Porphyry
Riders On The Storm
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:25 pm
by JoeWallack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Gaq2lkWpc
JW:
| Verse | Commentary | Message |
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9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in the Jordan.
10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens rent asunder, and the Spirit as a dove descending upon him:
11 And a voice came out of the heavens, Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased.
12 And straightway the Spirit driveth him forth into the wilderness.
13 And he was in the wilderness forty days tempted of Satan; And he was with the wild beasts; And the angels ministered unto him.
14 Now after John was delivered up, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God,
15 and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe in the gospel.
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1. "Preaching the gospel of God". Not really defined here but matches to what the only known significant Christian author before "Mark" said. Paul generally said it meant believing that Jesus was God's son and was sacrificed for your sins but was resurrected in a spiritual sense.
2. "The kingdom of God is at hand." Presumably meaning that whatever it means will/could happen in the audience's lifetime. "God's kingdom" implies that instead of a human king there will be a spiritual king. Again Paul.
3. "Repent". Presumably means repent based on the author's interpretation of what is considered sin in The Jewish Bible. Paul.
4. "Believe in the gospel". Added on to what precedes so presumably has its own definition. Strange/bizarre/macabre that a narrative, literally claiming that this is the difference between life and death, has its Jesus preaching salvation but not defining it. This is what you would see in a letter, like I dunno, Paul's. You start by stating a conclusion/objective and then use the letter to justify/convince. This is not a simple straightaway narrative. If there was an HJ he would not have done this. This "narrative" is for the reader, just like Paul's letters.
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1. The most important event of your life/death will happen in your lifetime.
2. Repent (to be defined).
3. Believe in "The Gospel" (to be defined)
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29 And straightway, when they were come out of the synagogue, they came into the house of Simon and Andrew, with James and John.
30 Now Simon`s wife`s mother lay sick of a fever; and straightway they tell him of her:
31 and he came and took her by the hand, and raised her up; and the fever left her, and she ministered unto them.
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1. "Sickness in Simon's house".
2. Note the contrast here with the healing stories involving the anonymous:
- A much shorter story because:
--No request to heal.
--No faith of healing.
--No reaction to the healing.
--No promotion of the healing.
As always subsequent Gospellers will gradually undo the contrast by including disciples in the previous. In GMark they are just along for the wridte |
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Joseph
The New Porphyry
Re: The Word According To GMarp. What is the GMark's Jesus' Message?
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:15 am
by rgprice
Firstly, I think that canonical Mark is a lightly revised version of an earlier Gospel, which we can call proto-Mark (although I don't really like that name).
The purpose of proto-Mark is to set the stage for Paul the Apostle. The writer of proto-Mark establishes a few major points:
1) Jesus is the Son of God
2) That Jesus is the Son of God is a mystery, unknown to most
3) The original disciples/apostles failed to understand the message of Jesus
4) Peter did grasp the mystery of Jesus, but nevertheless abandoned him due to worldly fears and insecurities
5) The Jewish leaders brought destruction upon themselves by displeasing God and failing to recognize his Son
6) Jesus is revealed through the Scriptures, though most people fail to recognize his identity in the Scriptures
7) Paul is the one to whom Jesus will ultimately be revealed and who will be the leader that reveals the true nature of Jesus to the world
The ending of Mark at 16:8 was originally followed by a narrative about Paul that would have begun with Paul's persecutions following the death of Jesus and Paul being sent away to Galilee, where Paul would then have been on the path that the disciples were supposed to be on to meet Jesus. But since the disciples had abandoned Jesus and were not given the message about where to meet him, they weren't there, so it is Paul who happens to be at the meeting place where Jesus reveals himself to Paul. Then the story about Paul's ministry follows, culminating in his trial in Jerusalem and subsequent "rescue" by the Gentiles who ultimately take him to Rome where he spreads the teachings of Jesus.