Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

[Giuseppe]

I don't understand your opposition when you are not even able to specify better your point in clear terms.

Are you saying that PALAT can mean only 'to give a refuge' in a religious/trascendent sense, therefore it can't be applied in a context where a governor releases coldly a prisoner (without particular praise for him) ?

Why are you exorcizing the idea that 'give a refuge' can mean, based on the context, 'to free, to cause one to escape' from the coming danger ?

[Peter Kirby]

Friendly reminder:

How can the releaser (PLT) be there without the possibility of releasing Jesus in the place of Barabbas? And how can Barabbas be released, if there was none rival Jesus Son of Father and Chrestos in opposition to the Jewish Jesus called Christos?

This one has nice pictures. Makes it easy to understand.

http://storage.cloversites.com/makingli ... pegoat.pdf



Oh no, is that not the answer you wanted?

The name Pilate and this motive for Mark is already an explanation.

There's nothing residual that needs to be explained about the name Pilate.

It's just your imagination, once again, running away with you. Yes it's just your imagination, running away with you.

But I guess it's also too much of a "coincidence" that the metaphor of your imagination running away should also be a veiled reference to something being ... released? delivered? running away? PILATE? OMG. Too much of a coincidence! Clearly, this can only have happened because you should say that God gave Pilate this name. You have proven your theory of divine intervention with the naming of baby Pilate for sure. Praise the Lord and pass the collection plate.

[Giuseppe]

Peter, then is "Bethany" for you a real place?

Or is it a fake name?

Or is it a real place, but the name occurs in the Gospels because the Hebrew stem makes it mean 'house of her who vexes herself' ?

[Peter Kirby]

Peter, then is "Bethany" for you a real place?

Or is it a fake name?

Or is it a real place, but the name occurs in the Gospels because the Hebrew stem makes it mean 'house of her who vexes herself' ?

Do you want to make a thread about Bethany? It would certainly be a better OP, from a very low bar, although maybe a much more boring thread because you wouldn't be so ridiculous.

[Giuseppe]

I have already talked about Bethany here, by quoting the great mythicist William Benjamin Smith.

[Peter Kirby]

And yet we keep talking about the name Pilate thing, and not because it is an intelligent suggestion.

[Secret Alias]

ואמר יוי תקפי ורחצני ומשיזיב יתי

משיזיב = survivor.

And the Lord our God gave up into our hands Og the king of Mathnan, and all his people; and we smote him till no remnant remained to him.

ומסר ייי אלקנא בידנא אוף ית עוג מלכא דמתנן וית כל עמיה ומחינוהי עד דלא אשתייר ליה משיזיב

[Peter Kirby]

It's the nature of the beast here. Dumb ideas get plenty of attention just because one person keeps pushing them.

[Giuseppe]

ואמר יוי תקפי ורחצני ומשיזיב יתי

משיזיב = survivor.

it is evident that you don't like to be understood, here. What are you saying?

My previous post is still without an answer.

[Giuseppe]

It's the nature of the beast here. Dumb ideas get plenty of attention just because one person keeps pushing them.

it is indeed strange, that you talk so despite of the fact that you recognize probably that the names in the gospels, especially in your loved Mark, bear a symbolical meaning, entirely beyond the real historicity of the people so named.