Lovely bath!

[Clive]

http://saintbasilchurch.org/6.html

communion with the True Church is determined precisely on the basis of freedom from heresy.

With the Pope apologising at Hagia Sophia, is Roman Catholicism about to merge with the true church? And what happened to heresy? Is it no longer important?

[perseusomega9]

If the Patriarchs and Pope reconcile you'll have athonite monks slaughtering each other.

[Sheshbazzar]

There will never be a reconciliation as long as the factions continue as opposing dictatorships. Dictating down to exactly what words and prayers individual believers are required to recite to please the petty theological politics of the parties of pyramid control lunatics that can thrive only upon total control and domination over their fellow man. Filioque my ass.

[perseusomega9]

but you agree the monks would be slaughtering each other?

[cienfuegos]

There will never be a reconciliation as long as the factions continue as opposing dictatorships. Dictating down to exactly what words and prayers individual believers are required to recite to please the petty theological politics of the parties of pyramid control lunatics that can thrive only upon total control and domination over their fellow man. Filioque my ass.

It's a good thing, if you don't say the correct magic words on the right day each week, you will lose out on eternal life. Pretty important issue.

[Clive]

During the Ecumenical prayer at the Patriarchal Church of St. George at the Phanar, Francis said: “Our joy is greater because its source is in our shared trust in God’s faithfulness”. Meanwhile, Patriarch Bartholomew called for the intercession of the “holy Fathers, on whose teaching our common faith of the first millennium was founded”

ANDREA TORNIELLI
IN ISTANBUL
At the end of his speech, Pope Francis asked for Patriarch Bartholomew’s blessing and bowed down before him to receive it. Bartholomew then kissed Francis on the head. And so, the second day of the papal visit concluded with a highly symbolic gesture. Night had already fallen in Istanbul on the eve of the Feast of St. Andrew, Patron Saint of the Orthodox Patriarchate, as Francis entered the Church of St. George with his brother Bartholomew. Their moment of prayer was brief and gave the world a taste of what is to happen tomorrow when the Pope attends the Divine Orthodox Liturgy celebrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch. At the entrance to the church, the Pope venerated a large silver-plated icon.

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/wo ... olo/37806/

[Leucius Charinus]

http://saintbasilchurch.org/6.html

communion with the True Church is determined precisely on the basis of freedom from heresy.

With the Pope apologising at Hagia Sophia, is Roman Catholicism about to merge with the true church? And what happened to heresy? Is it no longer important?

Your link goes on to say ....

• The truth is, of course, that both criteria are fundamental; for communion with the True Church is determined precisely on the basis of freedom from heresy. The apparent conflict between these two criteria arises from the fact that the seeds of a heresy may be present in the Church for a long time before it is formally condemned and the heretics expelled from the Church. And even after the heretics have been expelled, there may be some who remain in communion with them out of ignorance. Conversely, there have been many occasions when it is the confessors of the truth who have been expelled from the main Church body.

and then appears to answer the question by saying the following ....

• Thus the question must not be approached in a formalistic manner, but only by calling on the Holy Spirit to reveal by other means - for example, by direct revelation (as in the case of St. John Chrysostom), or through miracles or the incorruption of relics - who His chosen ones are.

Ah! The Holy Relic Industry was alive and well as was the immanence of the "Holy Flaming Spirit" (at the Star Chamber and elsewhere). The orthodoxy was still actively involved in the inquisition of heresy. In those days the "Heresy Laws" had not yet been outsourced by the church organisation to the legal systems of the Christian Nations and States.

WHEN DID THE WEST FALL AWAY FROM ORTHODOXY?
Didn't they just re-invent their own orthodoxy? KJV?





LC

[Leucius Charinus]

During the Ecumenical prayer at the Patriarchal Church of St. George at the Phanar, Francis said: “Our joy is greater because its source is in our shared trust in God’s faithfulness”. Meanwhile, Patriarch Bartholomew called for the intercession of the “holy Fathers, on whose teaching our common faith of the first millennium was founded”

ANDREA TORNIELLI
IN ISTANBUL
At the end of his speech, Pope Francis asked for Patriarch Bartholomew’s blessing and bowed down before him to receive it. Bartholomew then kissed Francis on the head. And so, the second day of the papal visit concluded with a highly symbolic gesture. Night had already fallen in Istanbul on the eve of the Feast of St. Andrew, Patron Saint of the Orthodox Patriarchate, as Francis entered the Church of St. George with his brother Bartholomew. Their moment of prayer was brief and gave the world a taste of what is to happen tomorrow when the Pope attends the Divine Orthodox Liturgy celebrated by the Ecumenical Patriarch. At the entrance to the church, the Pope venerated a large silver-plated icon.

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/wo ... olo/37806/

How much do you think the Holy Relic business is worth?

• The Patriarch thanked Catholics for returning the relics of St. Euphemia and also mentioned St. Basil and St. John Chrysostom. “May these holy Fathers, on whose teaching our common faith of the first millennium was founded, intercede for us to the Lord so that we may rediscover the full union of our Churches, thereby fulfilling His divine will.”

Divine will? Holy Fathers? Bullshit. These identities were not holy.
Basil was another 4th century Christian forger, interpolating Origen.

• It was long believed that the early date of the Clementines was proved by the fact that they were twice quoted by Origen. One of these quotations occurs in the Philokalia of Sts. Gregory of Nazianzus and Basil (c. 360). Dr. Armitage Robinson showed in his edition of that work (1893) that the citation is an addition to the passage of Origen made by the compilers, or possibly by a later editor. The other citation occurs in the old Latin translation of Origen on Matthew. This translation is full of interpolations and alterations, and the passage of Pseudo-Clement is apparently an interpolation by the translator from the Arian Opus imperfectum in Matt.[4]
  
  SEE: Clementine_literature

The 4th century church organisation is populated by warlords, thugs, book burners, forgers, fabricators and authoritarian-followers renown for their persecution and intolerance of the "traditional" and "Pre-Christian" life style before Constantine. Above all they were heresiologists. It was an important job in the 4th and subsequent centuries. Someone had to catalogue the bugs in the Belief System (BS).




LC