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The exegesis couldn't be invented by Tertullian, if Tertullian hated especially that (=the exegesis).

And if there was an exegesis hated by Tertullian (and not invented by Tertullian) existed, then there was also a text that would have supported a such exegesis.

In English we have a sort of ironic joke after "can you answer a yes or no question?", "Are you still beating up your wife?" The question traps the person being asked the question assuming the existence of a state prior to the statement because of the word "still." The people that say it know the Yes there were Marcionites. Yes there was exegesis. But the Marcionite exegesis is rarely mentioned with any definitiveness. We could go through chapter by chapter. Adversus Marcionem is the earliest commentary on Luke and it is identified as such in many works. Let's suppose there were Marcionites prior to Irenaeus's authorship of Adverus Marcionem. The specific exegesis of Marcionites periodically referenced in Adversus Marcionem doesn't require that the Marcionite gospel was as Lukan as this commentary on Luke pretends.

Mein Kampf purports to be among other things a commentary on German Jewish lifestyle habits. Surely not everything in Mein Kampf is "made up" but ...

Secret Alias wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:58 am The specific exegesis of Marcionites periodically referenced in Adversus Marcionem doesn't require that the Marcionite gospel was as Lukan as this commentary on Luke pretends.

really? Yet I find just in Luke the higher number of episodes invoking a Marcionite exegesis.

Not in Mark. In Luke.

For example, the word 'Father' is found a high number of times only in Luke and in GJohn (and in GThomas). But GJohn and GThomas can be excluded easily from the our discussion. Hence only Luke remains.

But he's trying to create a literary precursor for the existence of Luke. Where was Luke before Marcion? "Here Luke! Come here Luke! Where are you?" No answer.

I will give an answer. My son had a date for Homecoming here in the United States. His friend didn't. His friend pretended like he did. Where did this girl come from? Did she have to be wholly invented from his imagination. Not necessarily. He could have female friends, a friend, he reuses her name, some of their conversations. Presto. Betty Smith from my English class is my date for Homecoming.

It is an impossible coincidence, that the words 'Father' and 'Son', being so dear to Marcion, occur again and again in a presumed gospel invented ad hoc by Tertullian.

Your theory doesn't work.

What theory doesn't work?

Is Adversus Marcionem a commentary on Luke or not?

It is a commentary of a portion of Luke. It existed before Irenaeus and Tertullian under the name of "Gospel".