Iosephiana

[Secret Alias]

Has anyone on this thread argued that?

It would be closer to the end relative to a massive chapter 20 than a stand alone Life

[Ben C. Smith]

Yes Ben but those who said that about Clement's "mistake" weren't aware of the Suda's testimony regarding a book by Josephus entitled the hupomnemata with strong Christian interests. I think that's decisive.

You introduced the Suda only moments ago. Can you please give the reference or quote from it to which you are referring?

[Ben C. Smith]

Has anyone on this thread argued that?

It would be closer to the end relative to a massive chapter 20 than a stand alone Life

But not closer relative to all 20 books of the Antiquities!

[Secret Alias]

And please, some slack should be cut a musician jamming with his friends in a garage as opposed to a concert hall pianist

[maryhelena]

I think this research also has a place in the debate over the Testamonium Flavianum as I think it was original to the composition (and always have) only that the original composition was Clement's 147 CE text

There we go.....no TF before Marcion.....no Josephan 'historical' support for the gospel story prior to Marcion - therefore - Marcion is primary for early christian history - i.e. around 147 c.e.......something like that....

[Secret Alias]

But not closer relative to all 20 books of the Antiquities!

True but I have also argued that chapter 65 isn't in its natural place. We're figuring things out, we're jamming not chiselling stone tablets

[Ben C. Smith]

But not closer relative to all 20 books of the Antiquities!

True but I have also argued that chapter 65 isn't in its natural place. We're figuring things out, we're jamming not chiselling stone tablets

A moment ago you called something from the Suda "decisive" — that does not sound like jamming. And I still need the reference.

I think I found the manuscript you were referring to before.... Codex Vaticanus Graecus 984 (1354 AD) contains Antiquities 11-20, the War, and an
epitome of Antiquities 1-10, but apparently not the Life.

[Secret Alias]

that does not sound like jamming.

Really? You think musicians smoking weed high in a garage don't think that 'they got it' - 'let's turn that into something.' Obviously you've never been a musician high in a garage before. Look at Bitches Brew. Most of the Jimi Hendrix repertoire especially Voodoo Child (Slight Return). The Bob Marley song. That's jamming in a studio. This, what we're doing here (at its best), is jamming in a forum.

[Ben C. Smith]

that does not sound like jamming.

Really? You think musicians smoking weed high in a garage don't think that 'they got it' - let's turn that into something. Obviously you've never been a musician high in a garage before. Look at Bitches Brew. That's jamming in a studio.

Well, I play keyboard and have jammed before with fellow musicians. But I have never been high. I have never even "not inhaled".

[Secret Alias]

There you go. Jimi and Miles Davis's group were also on LSD and heaven knows what else. I really love Bitches Brew. Got to work this week.