How Did Paul Know Jesus Was Resurrected?

[Secret Alias]

And before we lose cite of the original point of the thread, the problem I am raising is as follows:

1. there is strong evidence to suggest that Paul claimed to have not been influenced by previous traditions of Christianity
2. how then did he know that Jesus was resurrected?

In other words, it can't have been from a written or oral 'report.' Paul must have received that information 'by revelation' and one must imagine from his 'great revelation' when he went to the third heaven and Paradise.

[outhouse]

1. there is strong evidence to suggest that Paul claimed to have not been influenced by previous traditions of Christianity
.

Only if you read the text literally like an apologist, and take it out of context.

2. how then did he know that Jesus was resurrected?

Probably because no one denied it, learned while he was hunting members of the movement down.

[outhouse]

' Paul must have received that information 'by revelation' and one must imagine from his 'great revelation' when he went to the third heaven and Paradise.

If that had been the case, the way we see these communities write in prose, it would have been the foundation for his authority. And it was not! it was just a minor blurb your feeding on out of context.

[Secret Alias]

So your point is that it doesn't matter that Paul said he never accepted 'tradition according to men' or was understood never to have consulted with any men to establish his gospel. You see no conflict or difficulty.

[MrMacSon]

I don't like pagan religions beyond thinking that Paul may have been interacting with them and some of their tenets may have found their way into the books of the NT.

Based on what?

You answered that in your next post -

1. there is strong evidence to suggest that Paul claimed to have not been influenced by previous traditions of Christianity

[MrMacSon]

...the problem I am raising is as follows:

• 1. there is strong evidence to suggest that Paul claimed to have not been influenced by previous traditions of Christianity
  2. how then did he know that Jesus was resurrected?

In other words, it can't have been from a written or oral 'report.' Paul must have received that information 'by revelation' and one must imagine from his 'great revelation' when he went to the third heaven and Paradise.

Maybe Paul 'knowing' about Jesus resurrection was

1. part of the redaction process? or
2. because he was part of the community that developed the narrative?
3. a bit of both?

[Secret Alias]

Why would we assume that someone other than Paul invented the resurrection? Why is the most reasonable option for you (viz. 'pagan churches') to go outside all attested evidence to find your answers? It's utterly baffling.

[MrMacSon]

Why would we assume that someone other than Paul invented the resurrection?

I don't. I've never before thought about which specific persons (or early Christian 'traditions') might have invented 'the resurrection'.

I engaged with you on this (without reference to those other mobs) in my previous post to you on this thread viz. -

Maybe Paul 'knowing' about Jesus resurrection was

1. part of the redaction process? or
2. because he was part of the community that developed the narrative?
3. a bit of both?

Why is the most reasonable option for you (viz. 'pagan churches') to go outside all attested evidence to find your answers?

Because, as far as the resurrection goes, many so-called pagan religions had a tradition of dying and rising gods!

[Secret Alias]

The same reliance on pet theories ad opposed to actual evidence could be used to argue that Paul was a pimp, or a chef, or a giraffe.

[MrMacSon]