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Semiopen,
This video is truly amazing! Rabbi Yitzchak Schochet, The Binding of Isaac: Ultimate Sacrifice.
From minute 21, it says that Issac was sacrificed and resuscitated. It links this event to the recitation order of the Amida and to the exodus and more.
I thought I may enjoy the benefit of your comments , if you could spare some time to listen to the video. Thank you.


http://www.torahcafe.com/rabbi-yitzchak ... ba0f4.html

Jewish scholar Jon Levenson discusses the "death and resurrection" of Isaac -- and the power of his blood to atone for the sins of Israel -- in The Death and Resurrection of the Beloved Son. The relevant chapter is discussed in detail in http://vridar.org/2008/05/23/the-offeri ... urrection/

The full argument is set out in the archive at http://vridar.org/category/book-reviews ... res-belov/ -- earliest posts are at the bottom of the page.

The Issac Abraham story is a dream. In that dream the God of Abraham is against Human sacrifice. How did I learn this? Reading Rocco a. Errico. The whole family and neighboring tribes would have been invited to the sacrifice of Abraham's son if it was a literal Human sacrifice. They would have had a Huuuuuge BBQ. Remember Abraham was a bigshot land owner and well respected. Instead Abraham took two of his young men and Issac are only involved and the ram.

The Rabbi says it was only Abraham and his Son that went. So, King James is wrong?
I think the only God that Abraham ever encounters are his own thoughts and morals he wanted to live by. Now I know some will say it's a story and Abraham never lived. Well that's ok by me but lets understand "The Story" correctly.

Ted Cruz and John Kasich have joined forces to defeat the evil Donald Trump. Their God must have told them to do that and not their own agreeing thoughts to win an election by the tactics they are using.

Remember they ALL invoke God to Bless America. What better way then to Beat Trump?

The Greeks were fun-loving people. Christianity, so unlike the Greeks, shares the guilt complex of the transcendental folk and their passion for sacred blood.

Garon wrote: The Rabbi says it was only Abraham and his Son that went. So, King James is wrong?

Then Abraham said to his servants, "You stay here with the ass. The boy and I will go up there; we will worship and we will return to you."

(Gen 22:5 TNK)

King James probably means the same but makes it weird -

And Abraham said unto his young men, Abide ye here with the ass; and I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you.

I'm preparing to look at Iskander's link - God help me.

Errico explains Human Sacrifice here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKOVPIQcaxU

Garon wrote:Errico explains Human Sacrifice here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKOVPIQcaxU

Garon, this video is very good. The mosaic cultic sacrificial language , used by most priests and rabbis, infected the memory of the man Yeshu, the heretic who preaches the ten commandments and repentance as the sure way to god.

In some overwritten versions of the Akedah , a willing Isaac is killed and immediately resuscitated to be used as the salvific foundation of Israel, and those versions stink: And the Lord said, ‘What have you done? Listen; your brother’s blood is crying out to me from the ground!

I thought the OP video was pretty good. Also look forward to looking more closely at Neil's insights and possibly give Dr Levenson a few dollars.

Don't recall ever hearing that the second blessing of the Amida (revives the dead) was a reference to Isaac - probably was just asleep when it happened.

The sees/provides thing is interesting -

And Abraham said, "God will see to the sheep for His burnt offering, my son." And the two of them walked on together.

(Gen 22:8 TNK)

And Abraham said: 'God will provide Himself the lamb for a burnt-offering, my son.' So they went both of them together.

(Gen 22:8 JPS)

The 1985 JPS (TNK) changed the 1917 version.

אֱלֹהִ֞ים יִרְאֶה

And Abraham named that site Adonai-yireh, whence the present saying, "On the mount of the LORD there is vision."

(Gen 22:14 TNK)

And Abraham called the name of that place Adonai-jireh; as it is said to this day: 'In the mount where the LORD is seen.'

(Gen 22:14 JPS)

יְהוָ֣ה׀ יִרְאֶ֑ה

Maybe that's a different author using the tetragrammaton, but it is interesting. The gentile translations generally go with provides - http://biblehub.com/genesis/22-14.htm except ironically the King James -

And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen.

I used to think this might be a rare instance where the gentiles were more accurate (ie. "provides" the sacrifice), but now see that the issue is more nuanced.

The sees/provides thing is interesting -


see to, is to deal with something that needs doing or to help someone who needs your help. God will see to and god will provide says the same thing.
See, alone allows the linking with the blood of Isaac on the doors of the Israelites in Exodus. It is a very surprising linkage.


The Stone Edition of the Chumash translates
8 And Abraham said, " God will seek out for Himself the lamb of the offering, my son"
Note 8 Abraham answered delicately, " God will seek out for Himself the lamb, but if there is no lamb, then you, my son, will be the offering".


!4 ... " Hashem Yireh", as it is said. this day, on the mountain Hashem will be seen .
Note 14 Hashem Yireh [i.e., " Hashem will see". The original name of the place was Shalem, the name given by Shem, son of Noah-- whom the Sages identify with Malchizedek, king of Jerusalem.
After the Akeidah, Abraham called it Yireh. In deference to both Shem and Abraham, God synthesized both names and called it Yerushalayim (Midrash)

iskander wrote:

Garon wrote:Errico explains Human Sacrifice here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKOVPIQcaxU

Garon, this video is very good. The mosaic cultic sacrificial language , used by most priests and rabbis, infected the memory of the man Yeshu, the heretic who preaches the ten commandments and repentance as the sure way to god.

In some overwritten versions of the Akedah , a willing Isaac is killed and immediately resuscitated to be used as the salvific foundation of Israel, and those versions stink: And the Lord said, ‘What have you done? Listen; your brother’s blood is crying out to me from the ground!

iskander, It's all good reading or listening to. Glad that most of Humankind doesn't do the sacrifice thing anymore. Except when young men and women are sent to war somewhere.